STEM Education And Jobs: Declining Numbers Of Blacks Seen In Math, Science

[PikaDaDon]

Why not? They have trade school for mechanics and the like. It cuts down costs, it make people a lot more focused and efficient in a shorter period of time by not being concerned with bullshyt classes that ain't in their major, and have efficient workers in as little as 2 years.

You are correct. But people who graduated from trade schools have to compete with people who graduated from proper universities for employment. Guess which one will get the job?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why not? They have trade school for mechanics and the like. It cuts down costs, it make people a lot more focused and efficient in a shorter period of time by not being concerned with bullshyt classes that ain't in their major, and have efficient workers in as little as 2 years.

stop asking for short-cuts

Trade school workers are just technicians. Anyone can do that shyt.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We'll those are nice but that isn't exactly what is meant by STEM, the definition is not written in stone but STEM usually refers to careers that lead to PhDs like engineering, physics, chemistry etc

IT, certs, trade schools or union jobs are not really what people are referring to, although they can technically by included

Just the fact that y'all are suggesting that type of stuff and not brainstorming about PhDs is part of the problem

Bingo.

Ya'll can't name one black person who is a major science prize winner who has a PhD in any science field.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You are correct. But people who graduated from trade schools have to compete with people who graduated from proper universities for employment. Guess which one will get the job?

Bingo.

Dudes in here asking for short cuts from jobs that don't have the same credentials, exposure, and rigor of education that lesser programs do.

 

[Wild self]

Well people want job experience and certs over anything else. The bachelor's degree and masters degree is almost worthless nowadays, even in STEM. There are IT workers that make less than 50k with CERTS. Higher education is putting people in debt that shouldn't be. Tuition is hyper inflated as it is and no one seems to do anything about it.

If anything, we need more Union jobs to close the wealth disparity in America. STEM alone can't save the middle class and very few people are talented inSTEM.

You are correct. But people who graduated from trade schools have to compete with people who graduated from proper universities for employment. Guess which one will get the job?

 

[Serious]

stop asking for short-cuts

Trade school workers are just technicians. Anyone can do that shyt.

How's that lab technician job working out for you .

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How's that lab technician job working out for you .

Call professional students lab techs, brehs

 

[Serious]

Bingo.

Ya'll can't name one black person who is a major science prize winner who has a PhD in any science field.

Does Niel Degrasse Tyson count


Percy Julian tha gawd

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Does Niel Degrasse Tyson count


Percy Julian tha gawd

Percy Julian got a google doodle...but...I can't think of anyone else besides George Washington Carver

https://www.google.com/doodles/percy-julians-115th-birthday

 

[theworldismine13]

Well people want job experience and certs over anything else. The bachelor's degree and masters degree is almost worthless nowadays, even in STEM. There are IT workers that make less than 50k with CERTS. Higher education is putting people in debt that shouldn't be. Tuition is hyper inflated as it is and no one seems to do anything about it.

If anything, we need more Union jobs to close the wealth disparity in America. STEM alone can't save the middle class and very few people are talented inSTEM.

Breh, get a grip, this issue isn't about jobs, this issue is about the lack of black phd's

If you think getting a job is important that's fine, but the issue is the lack of black scientists

The fact that the lack of PhDs is not registering with you points out one of the main problems, people don't don't even understand what a phd is or it's significance

 

[Wild self]

Breh, get a grip, this issue isn't about jobs, this issue is about the lack of black phd's

If you think getting a job is important that's fine, but the issue is the lack of black scientists

The fact that the lack of PhDs is not registering with you points out one of the main problems, people don't don't even understand what a phd is or it's significance

There are black PhDs, but the cell phone/ computer companies got them. You should be more concerned about black PhDs working for their own selves and creating businesses on their own. Also, there should be hands-on training for these professions. The typical school system is broken and outdated in so many ways.

 

[theworldismine13]

There are black PhDs, but the cell phone/ computer companies got them. You should be more concerned about black PhDs working for their own selves and creating businesses on their own. Also, there should be hands-on training for these professions. The typical school system is broken and outdated in so many ways.

are you not reading the article? there are very few black phds, that is the issue being discussed

hands on professions have nothing to do with the issue of black phds, those are two completely different worlds

im not disagreeing with having more trade type training but the notion that that is connected to phds is silly

 

[Wild self]

But he's still several years away from completing his PhD, and he's tired of agonizing over a $37 bus ticket. Even after he gets that degree, he'll need to do a year of post-doctoral study. "If I stay here at Hopkins" for post-doc work, he says, "I'll make the same or less than a city sanitation worker."

At each stage of science education, many black students feel pressure to stop studying and start earning real money. Smith, who has an undergraduate degree from MIT, says he could be making as much as $115,000 per year in a corporate job.

Yet it's hard to advance far in science without at least a master's, if not a doctorate.

Joseph Francisco, a black chemistry professor at Purdue and past president of the American Chemical Society, has a PhD from MIT. He says his undergrad students are always telling him, "I got to think about a job."

"With first-generation college students, there is enormous pressure," Francisco says. "Without a mentor who can tell you about what to expect beyond undergrad, who can explain what are the opportunities after a postgraduate degree, they just stop at a bachelor's degree."

That is the problem. Most people would jump ship to the corporate life.

 

[theworldismine13]

That is the problem. Most people would jump ship to the corporate life.

no that isnt the problem, the problem is that there isnt that many black undergraduates studying STEM in the first place

having to choose between 115K and a PhD is a good thing, we need more black people to be stuck in that conundrum

 

[Wild self]

no that isnt the problem, the problem is that there isnt that many black undergraduates studying STEM in the first place

having to choose between 115K and a PhD is a good thing, we need more black people to be stuck in that conundrum

Because very few people would spend 10+ years post-high school before having a 6 figure income. Most white people can't do that, but you expect black folk, a disenfranchised group, to outdo that shyt?

We better off making businesses in our community before branching out to STEM, when we have actual wealth and disposable income to do so.