Stay at home parent is a bullsh*t occupation

[DemureNatural]

I'm not disagreeing with that but everyone's situation is different. I have heard the same thing but I also have a friend who is a stay at home mom of 4 little ones under 3. She has 3 y/o, 20 month old twins and a 5 month old. She has a nanny when she needs to run errands but she does it all.

Like I said everyone's situation if different.

3 little ones under 3?!?!
She sounds like a super mom! The nanny is a blessing, I'm sure!

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

A "job" ...aka corporate slavery....shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as child rearing.



If you're lucky enough to stay home and raise your children full time, that's a blessing.




It's the most important duty a parent can have.


Working long hours and being away from your children is unnatural to me.



That's why I choose to work a graveyard.....I can be with my son all day and only work while he's asleep.

 

[DemureNatural]

Being a stay at home parent is much easier than having to work a real job. The media has somehow convinced people that it's harder than going to work, but anyone that believes this is crazy. Most of my co-workers that have stay at home wives tell me that their women don't even cook or clean half the time. Really, what the he'll are they doing all day?

RE: Most of my co-workers that have stay at home wives tell me that their women don't even cook or clean half the time.

That's trifling!

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I have more respect for women who work a job and still come home and take care of their kids. Now that's some real shyt to do.

Essentially this is what made the Hilary Rosens comments so hilarious. SHE'S A MOM. Muhfukkas just side stepped that shyt like she didn't have 100% credibility for this topic. She's a MOM. And she has a TAXABLE JOB that creates REVENUE (which was her main point). Her opinion trumps any and everything Ann Romney claims in this argument.

Dudes don't even need to comment on this. I'll just let the females who work and have kids take the reigns.

We judge jobs on how tough or stressful they are now?

that is what stay at home parent as an occupation supporters say

 

[tru_m.a.c]

a lot of excuses are being made in here for bad parenting

and a lot of y'all are ignoring that different professions require different schedules/rotations

and a lot of y'all are ignoring the fact that many women nowadays WANT to climb the professional ladder (I'm not even going to get into how this discussion is full of men telling woman what's the perfect set up i.e. sex discrimination)

also a lot of y'all are ignoring socioeconomic factors that affect child rearing & the personality development of children

 

[diggy]

My boy has 3 kids. He stays at home with them in the day. I'd rather a 9to5 based on the stuff he has to do. The cooking, cleaning and tending is non stop. Their development is way ahead of the other kids in the same age group. He spends time educating them daily. His eldest is in school and is reading 6 levels ahead of his class. School work is a joke to him. His other kids amaze me. As a parent he loves it. I'm not a parent so what I see is overwhelming work. Luckily his 2nd eldest is starting school this year so his job will be easier now before he has to pick them up.

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

a lot of excuses are being made in here for bad parenting

and a lot of y'all are ignoring that different professions require different schedules/rotations

and a lot of y'all are ignoring the fact that many women nowadays WANT to climb the professional ladder (I'm not even going to get into how this discussion is full of men telling woman what's the perfect set up i.e. sex discrimination)

also a lot of y'all are ignoring socioeconomic factors that affect child rearing & the personality development of children

How is a mother being home with her child bad parenting?

Who's stopping women from climbing professional ladders? Most stay at home mothers are doing it because it was something they agreed to do.

You're just spewing nonsense. "A lot of yall are ignoring the most crucial aspect to the question..." And then you fail to expand upon that, thus leaving that particular point empty and worthless. For example, share these socioeconomic factors that affect child rearing and the personality development of children that a lot of us are ignoring...

 

[tru_m.a.c]

How is a mother being home with her child bad parenting?

both sides are equating a specific household to automatic good results from child rearing

notice I never stated what side I was relating to because both sides were making this judgement

Who's stopping women from climbing professional ladders? Most stay at home mothers are doing it because it was something they agreed to do.

here is but one example: "How can you knock a woman for staying at home, rearing the children, managing the house e.t.c. whilst her man goes out and gets that bread? Thats damn near the perfect synergy between husband and wife, thats what your meant to do as the man of the house." So if thats what your meant to do as the man of the house, what's the woman supposed to do???

You're just spewing nonsense. "A lot of yall are ignoring the most crucial aspect to the question..." And then you fail to expand upon that, thus leaving that particular point empty and worthless. For example, share these socioeconomic factors that affect child rearing and the personality development of children that a lot of us are ignoring...

This relates back to my original point about parenting (good vs bad). The environment you bring a child up in has just as much a control over their maturation process. Both sides are talking as if there is only one determining factor.

 

[SouthernBelle]

My boy has 3 kids. He stays at home with them in the day. I'd rather a 9to5 based on the stuff he has to do. The cooking, cleaning and tending is non stop. Their development is way ahead of the other kids in the same age group. He spends time educating them daily. His eldest is in school and is reading 6 levels ahead of his class. School work is a joke to him. His other kids amaze me. As a parent he loves it. I'm not a parent so what I see is overwhelming work. Luckily his 2nd eldest is starting school this year so his job will be easier now before he has to pick them up.

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This is what a great stay at home parent does. If you do it right it is definitely a job. I definitely applaud women who work a 9 to 5 and a full second shift. However, in most of these situations, child rearing suffers.

 

[twan83]

Staying at home can be a lot of work though.

I have 3 kids with a newborn due anytime. I cook, I clean, I have to separate them when they constantly arguing majority of the day. I have to do errands. They have appointments some times. Other days they can be sick and i have to focus on that one kid a little more with them being sick while dealing with the other 2 kids.

And im not including the newborn im having JUST YET
Not only that i go to school online. Nor im including my health issues that make things more difficult. Nobody is saying its a occupation but THE shyt IF FAR FROM EASY.

LIke i said before i was in the army doing around 12 hr shifts at least 5-6 days a week. And i find it more difficult raising my kids than the DAMN ARMY. Am i complaining NA just saying it more difficult. But i love the fact i can raise my kids my own way and they are in a safe environment.

A stay at home parent DOES DESERVE CREDIT PERIOD but no its not a OCCUPATION. Its something that people should appreciate the other parent for doing while they are handling there normal job without any issues.

 

[winb83]

I think actively parenting is the most important job you'll ever have.

except that its not a job its a responsibility and a relationship. A man that works a 9-5 and raises a kid is not working two jobs he's working one and fulfilling his responsibility as a parent.

statements like yours are wrong because some people will never have kids. People with kids always come from that angle though they act like having children is some duty or a right to passage everyone should go through when the truth is not everyone should be having kids and a lot of people have them irresponsibly.

as for how your kids turn out you don't have any control over that. You can do everything right and still raise a nutjob. Every serial killer mass murdered dictator and villain in human history had a mother and a father. You trying to tell me in every instance all those parents fukked up on their end in raising them?

 

[winb83]

My boy has 3 kids. He stays at home with them in the day. I'd rather a 9to5 based on the stuff he has to do. The cooking, cleaning and tending is non stop. Their development is way ahead of the other kids in the same age group. He spends time educating them daily. His eldest is in school and is reading 6 levels ahead of his class. School work is a joke to him. His other kids amaze me. As a parent he loves it. I'm not a parent so what I see is overwhelming work. Luckily his 2nd eldest is starting school this year so his job will be easier now before he has to pick them up.

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When he turns his child over to school that's where everything tends to become a crap shoot. I'm damn near 30 and I know people at my age that never mentally recovered from or made it out of high school. School to that point is more of a daycare system than actual education. You can teach your children better than any school can.

 

[DemureNatural]

except that its not a job its a responsibility and a relationship. A man that works a 9-5 and raises a kid is not working two jobs he's working one and fulfilling his responsibility as a parent.

statements like yours are wrong because some people will never have kids. People with kids always come from that angle though they act like having children is some duty or a right to passage everyone should go through when the truth is not everyone should be having kids and a lot of people have them irresponsibly.

as for how your kids turn out you don't have any control over that. You can do everything right and still raise a nutjob. Every serial killer mass murdered dictator and villain in human history had a mother and a father. You trying to tell me in every instance all those parents fukked up on their end in raising them?

I completely agree that if you decide to have and KEEP your child you should take full responsibility for that decision...which to me can be considered a FT job...just like your relationship with your significant other. If you work AND have a child, that's two jobs. Stay at home parents (the ones worth something) have to put time and energy into their child(ren) and home, just like working parents.
I don't think having children is a right, but a choice that many people subconsciously make, without regard to whether or not they should be parents. Having kids is just too easy, IMO!
RE: You trying to tell me in every instance all those parents fukked up on their end in raising them?
No. All a parent can do is their best, starting early in the child's life

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

both sides are equating a specific household to automatic good results from child rearing

notice I never stated what side I was relating to because both sides were making this judgement



here is but one example: "How can you knock a woman for staying at home, rearing the children, managing the house e.t.c. whilst her man goes out and gets that bread? Thats damn near the perfect synergy between husband and wife, thats what your meant to do as the man of the house." So if thats what your meant to do as the man of the house, what's the woman supposed to do???


This relates back to my original point about parenting (good vs bad). The environment you bring a child up in has just as much a control over their maturation process. Both sides are talking as if there is only one determining factor.

Men make money. Women cook clean and child rear. What do you mean what is she supposed to do? Have you ever heard of a housekeeper or maid? Their duties are similar to those of a good housewife. Mixed with a teacher. That's not sexist that's just the understanding of it. The house should be clean, the laundry should be done, the food should cooked, and the kids should look and behave like they got some sense.

And you've still failed to give an example of these determining factors. Being a housewife isn't for everybody, I'll give you that, but you can't tell me a good housewife under the proper circumstances has no value.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Men make money. Women cook clean and child rear. What do you mean what is she supposed to do? Have you ever heard of a housekeeper or maid? Their duties are similar to those of a good housewife. Mixed with a teacher. That's not sexist that's just the understanding of it. The house should be clean, the laundry should be done, the food should cooked, and the kids should look and behave like they got some sense.

And you've still failed to give an example of these determining factors. Being a housewife isn't for everybody, I'll give you that, but you can't tell me a good housewife under the proper circumstances has no value.

I can cook and clean my damn self. I'm married and can not see any value in having a housewife