You do know how the Warriors offense works right? I'm beginning to think a large majority of this board doesn't...
Statistically, Curry had the worst Finals performance of any MVP in NBA history
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You do know how the Warriors offense works right? I'm beginning to think a large majority of this board doesn't...
So there would be absolutely no need to bring it up.
That is NOT what I implied and that's NOT using his injury as an excuse. Using it as an excuse would be excusing the Warriors for losing because of said injury. The Warriors nor do any other team have that luxury. Injuries can't be used as an excuse. Period.
I'm done with this circle talk with you
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That's not using it as an excuse, it's putting his injury in the proper context of what happened in that series. Using it as an excuse would be implying/saying the Cavaliers only won because of his injury, therefore they don't deserve to be champions thus giving the Warriors a pass (excusing them for losing) because they had to overcome an injury.
Are you retarded is more the question?
Bruh help me out...I don't always agree with what you say but respect it...but what do you mean by the bolded. To me...that's an excuse. Putting the bold in proper context means if Bogut plays they win. W/O him the Warriors were at a disadvantage. Help me out
Well technically I never brought it up to begin with, and when I did start talking about it - it was only to highlight the double standard that people use for the Warriors and other teams and the fact that people were starting to feel justified about their opinion that the Warriors couldn't beat a healthy Cavs - when they don't use the same rule for the Warriors.So there would be absolutely no need to bring it up.
I'm done with this circle talk with you
How can one say that the Warriors can't beat a healthy/full-strength Cavs team (after the Cavs won this year's Finals), when the Cavs didn't beat a Warriors team at full-strength either? I mean after all, the Warriors were 3-1 against the Cavs when both teams had a full complement of players.
I am all for deconstructing double standards and cognitive dissonance however Bogut is nowhere near as important to the Warriors as Kyrie is to the Cavs.
Putting it in the proper context doesn't mean they were automatically going to win, just that it would've put them in a better position of winning. Just like Kyrie last season. And that's fine if you want to say that the Cavaliers would've been in a better position of winning the Finals last season, if Kyrie was healthy. What's not fine is saying that the Cavs ONLY lost because Kyrie and Love were injured - that's using it as an excuse. What's not fine is saying the Warriors ONLY won because Kyrie and Love were injured - that's using it as an excuse.
When I started talking about Bogut's injury it was to shed light on the double standard that seems to pollute this board. Dudes are all fine taking injuries into account when it suits their cause, but don't acknowledge them when it goes against their agenda. At the end of the day, injuries happen - it's part and parcel of the game - we shouldn't be excusing teams for losing or taking credit away from teams because of them.
I'm only holding a mirror up to those people who do use injuries as an excuse.
And at no point did I ever say or imply that it was (it's not really the point here). Not to mention Bogut wasn't the only Warriors player who didn't play or who suffered an injury over the last three games.
I'm genuinely curious because dudes seem to think that Curry's assists are the only FGs he creates for his team. You'd be hard pressed to find another PG in this league that creates more open looks for his teammates than Curry does. Assists are most certainly not the only way to measure them (especially in a motion offense). I mean shyt he's generating more points for his teammates than he did under Jackson when he was averaging 8-9 assists a game.
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Yes you did. You brought up health and full complement of players and double standards as if all players are equal. Nobody would've been talking about injuries last year if Mosgov got hurt and missed the Finals while Kyrie played.
If Klay and Draymond missed the Finals this year you better believe folks would be talking about injuries and of course most of them would be abiding by a double standard. You still got people talking bout shyt was rigged because Draymond was an idiot.
I agree with this, him n Klay create open baskets for teammates because of defenses over playing them or just straight up confusion coming off screens. Currys careless turnovers offsets that though
No I did not. I've already stated this before. I don't feel like repeating myself over and over and over and over again.
No I did not. I've already stated this before. I don't feel like repeating myself over and over and over and over again.
Yes you do
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Double standards are about two things that are the same being treated differently. Bogut being out is not anywhere close to Kyrie being out. Therefore there is no double standard here. People didn't bemoan the Cavs lack of health in general last year (Bron wasn't right, Shumpert had tears everywhere, Delly got dehydrated) they bemoaned their 2nd and 3rd best players being out for almost the entire series. That is in no way comparable to Bogut missing 2 and half games and Iggy developing a bad back and still playing. I don't think either is an excuse or grounds for an asterisk but there are certainly not comparable.