Lord_nikon
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Horrible title, should have been rise of the sith or something,,,
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker spoiler discussion thread
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The Fukin Prophecy
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When this nikka was calling out to her while she was in the middle of a lightsaber fight with Renand this nikka Boyega still bucking his eyes going Reeeeeeeey!
. Did this nikka expect her to turn around and say "Yes, Finn." so she could get her wig split.
bigillwill06
All Star
The super sped up pacing of this movie tosuplement JJ Abrams skipping over of Rian Johnsons movie really fukked up the movie in general. The movie seemed like a return to The force awakens. But he tried to pack two movies in one and had to rush through everything. That being said the movie aint bad. Not good either but definitely a 6/10 which is somewhat of a miracle to consider how trash the last movie was. Overall in the big scheme this wgole trilogy destroys the legacy of the OG trilogy worse than the prequels did.
Drew Wonder
Superstar
The movie was peak JJ Abrams, for better or worse. Heavy on nostalgia that tows the line between genuinely sincere and shameless pandering. Fast paced plot that distracts your brain from a lot of things that don't really make sense if you spend too much time thinking about it. Quippy dialogue and a whole lot of McGuffins.
Having thought about it I think it's a solid, entertaining film on its own but a bad Star Wars film. The irony is it spends so much time trying to "correct" the Last Jedi while also setting up elements that are just as damaging if not moreso to the Star Wars lore than anything Rian Johnson came up with.
I'm sorry but I can't get over him bringing Palpatine back. It cheapens Vader's sacrifice and him fulfilling the prophecy as the chosen one. I may have been able to accept it more if there had been ample setup throughout the new trilogy or if JJ and Terrio had thought of a better explanation but they simply throw it at us and asked the audience not to question it too much. It was way too lazy of an approach to such a huge plot point that had major ramifications for the entire saga.
Also, it's abundantly clear now that this is how it went down.
The Force Awakens: This is my movie!
The Last Jedi: Fukk your movie JJ!
The Rise of Skywalker: Oh yeah? Well fukk your movie Rian!
And that's ultimately why the Disney trilogy failed imo. Two directors with different visions who couldn't put their egos aside and make something cohesive. One director should've made all three films
Having thought about it I think it's a solid, entertaining film on its own but a bad Star Wars film. The irony is it spends so much time trying to "correct" the Last Jedi while also setting up elements that are just as damaging if not moreso to the Star Wars lore than anything Rian Johnson came up with.
I'm sorry but I can't get over him bringing Palpatine back. It cheapens Vader's sacrifice and him fulfilling the prophecy as the chosen one. I may have been able to accept it more if there had been ample setup throughout the new trilogy or if JJ and Terrio had thought of a better explanation but they simply throw it at us and asked the audience not to question it too much. It was way too lazy of an approach to such a huge plot point that had major ramifications for the entire saga.
Also, it's abundantly clear now that this is how it went down.
The Force Awakens: This is my movie!
The Last Jedi: Fukk your movie JJ!
The Rise of Skywalker: Oh yeah? Well fukk your movie Rian!
And that's ultimately why the Disney trilogy failed imo. Two directors with different visions who couldn't put their egos aside and make something cohesive. One director should've made all three films
Honest question, outside of the palpatine twist that was known for months what was the point of this dumpster fire?
Force sensitive but getting his ass beat by plasma and the other silly putty troopers all trilogy
I don't the TLJ is doing this at all. The fact that it doesn't go where everyone expected a Star Wars movie to go doesn't mean it's a refutation of the prior movie. If JJ was gonna be that offended by Rian not following his ideas then he should've just made the whole trilogy. Rian clearly wanted to make something more interesting, unexpected and challenging than just an aping of Empire, and Disney was ok with that. JJ, obviously, wasn't.
Drew Wonder
Superstar
That's my point though. I think Rian going in such a different direction is a result of him not liking what JJ tried to establish. JJ sets up Snoke as the big bad, Johnson kills him. JJ hints at Rey having some special type of lineage. Johnson says "nah, her lineage isn't important." JJ sets up Hux as the new Tarkin. Johnson makes him a goofy, mustache-twirling villain bordering on parody. JJ sets up a big moment with Rey and Luke. Johnson has Luke toss the lightsaber.
Whether Johnson improved on things or made them worse is up for debate (which is why TLJ is so love it or hate it) but I think it's pretty clear Johnson at best thought JJ was being way too safe with the Force Awakens or at worst just straight up hated it. I don't buy for a minute that they had everything planned out when the films are straight up fighting each other regarding plot points.
They definitely didn't have anything planned out. Johnson has said as much.
I just think it's Rian's instinct as a filmmaker and storyteller to do put a fresh, clever, unexpected twist on standard genre fair. It's evident in all of his movies. He sees a set-up and thinks of the 3rd or 4th possible result of the setup, when JJ likely only thought through to the first, obvious outcome.
Snoke was still just as big a bad, he just got killed by his understudy. He was never established as anything really worth more story. Just because spent 2 years speculating about it doesn't mean the weight of story needs to reflect that. Ultimately, he existed to further Kylo's character and his relationship with Rey.
As for Rey and Luke, they still got their moments. It just want the happy platitudinous tripe JJ clearly wanted it to be. Nothing about it defied TFA or the OG trilogy, imo.
If JJ wanted the movies to tell the story he wanted, he should've made them all himself.
Lord_nikon
Veteran
Just like another poster said,,,this should have ended at episode 10 so JJ could corerct what other dude did... this movie was rushed and packed...... the movie was okay, kept me entertained,,,, I don't know if I can watch it again tho
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Ehhhh nah this ain't it brehs. It wasn't completely horrible but damn, I think The Last Jedi was better. TLJ was definitely better directed. The action sequences in this were light.
The story was just your basic shyt. Of course J.J. has Rey be from one of the lineage families
Kylo turns face so he was basically a lightweight Vader
Palp back somehow, nobody knows. Snoke was what... a clone? of some type? That's trash
The story was just your basic shyt. Of course J.J. has Rey be from one of the lineage families
Kylo turns face
so he was basically a lightweight Vader Palp back somehow, nobody knows. Snoke was what... a clone? of some type? That's trash
Saysumthinfunnymike
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And Finn the world's biggest 
out lol
Not even a peck on the cheek. He could have been PAAGin since last movie but nope wait around for Rey and she out here tonging down a guy who killed a billion ppl
out lol Not even a peck on the cheek. He could have been PAAGin since last movie but nope wait around for Rey and she out here tonging down a guy who killed a billion ppl
Saysumthinfunnymike
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I forgot the lesbian kiss outta left field lol. shyt like that don't bother me but it's still 
how badly they force these agendas
how badly they force these agendas
Also Palpatine fukking bytches has to be the funniest shyt
