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nikkas in here talking about what Lucas said.... Lucas might as well be dead himself.. This is Disney now
The prequels get shyt on but let’s be serious they each have atleast one classic moment. Can we say the same for the new ones? Any classic lines like Obi speech in revenge?Han dying I guess? These are worse than the prequels and this last ones job is just to keep the score close.I don't think anyone saw the lack of vision from Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy coming. I think we all assumed they weren't naive/dumb enough to approach a trilogy sequel as big as Star Wars literally without any plan in sight and they were just gonna let directors write their own take and work it on the fly.
My guess is a lot of people felt this trilogy was a "fresh start" so to speak. Given how Lucas couldn't translate some interesting concepts into good movies in the prequels - well, Revenge is pretty good imo -, fans were eager to watch a new chapter with the characters and story they grew up loving with new people at the helm. The fact Disney made a home run with the MCU had to get people excited too, the studio knew how to do right with big franchises.
I think years from now, everyone will be even more and at how Lucasfilm handled this trilogy. It's legit unbelievable they didn't map anything out without any story or plan that would hold the movies together.
Thing about the prequels is you knew where the story was headed. Development between some of the stories could have been better but we had a general idea of what was gonna happen based off of the original trilogy and general information in the books. These new ones make you feel like they have no direction...The prequels get shyt on but let’s be serious they each have atleast one classic moment. Can we say the same for the new ones? Any classic lines like Obi speech in revenge?Han dying I guess? These are worse than the prequels and this last ones job is just to keep the score close.
I saw the thread was upped so I was hoping to come in to find a new trailer or some news but good LORD there's a lot of whining going on
Why do you do this to yourselves? Between this thread and the thrones thread dosent it get tiring?
I upped it and linked an article with tons of news, the first real details of the story of Rise, and even did a summary for lazy brehs that don't wanna read a long form piece
Images look pretty solid but of course that dosent mean much.Very long piece in Vanity Fair, cool read though
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, The Ultimate Preview
Some snippets:
-Rise of Skywalker takes places about 1 year after TLJ.
-Rey's training is "almost complete".
-Knights of Ren confirmed
-J.J is saying he's taking a different approach than TFA. He's less about doing what he felt Star Wars should be to "doing what feels right" because it does, not because it adheres to something.
-Leia's scenes were done adapting the deleted scenes they had of her from TFA. They basically found new ways and contexts to put her dialogues and scenes.
-At least two new planets in Pasaana (desert planet, probably were we see Rey in the teaser) and Kijimi, a "snow dusted" planet.
-New First Order character in Allegiant General Pryde. They are also saying they will delve, at least a little, on the First Order origins, I guess that's where Pryde's character is for, to give that backstory.
-Keri Russell's character is called Zorri Bliss. "A masked scoundrel".
-Rey and Kylo's "bond" runs even deeper than previously revelaed
-Seems like Finn will be in charge of an Endor-like battle. This picture is about him "leading the charge against the mechanized forces of the First Order".
I actually had no idea that this was the name of the last movie (in this trilogy)
The Rise of Skywalker? who's evil ass laugh was that? who's the 3rd man!?
1000 generations lives in you now.
I finally saw this high and let me just say
I think that line lowkey means Yoda, Obi-Wan, Luke were teaching her in between this and TLJ.
People have been hyped about seeing a fully force mastered Luke for decades. We never got that with Anakin so Luke was the closest and this fukk boi Rian had him doing nothing and not only that had Rey beat him in combat.
From my understanding, even though he lost blood/limbs, his midichlorian concentration per blood cell was still insanely high. The difference is, because he was in the condition he was in, he was always channeling the force just to live essentially. Like, it was painful for him to be alive in his condition and to operate the suit, to fight with the suit (they made references how the suit wasn’t even that technically advanced, it was a big bulky, hard to operate, piece of equipment).It’s not about size, he lost a lot of midichlorians when he lost his limbs.
Also, the narrative to some degree is that the Emperor was always looking to replace him so he never truly taught him the full Dark SideFrom my understanding, even though he lost blood/limbs, his midichlorian concentration per blood cell was still insanely high. The difference is, because he was in the condition he was in, he was always channeling the force just to live essentially. Like, it was painful for him to be alive in his condition and to operate the suit, to fight with the suit (they made references how the suit wasn’t even that technically advanced, it was a big bulky, hard to operate, piece of equipment).
That pain also fueled his connection to the dark side; being in pain emotionally and physically kept his thoughts dark. It’s almost like he became the suit when he accepted the dark side, it was a physical reflection of what he was struggling with.
I believe that’s why he didn’t technically advance with dark side techniques, he was using the dark side to keep himself alive. Which, in itself, was a feat...