Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Official Thread)

[The Fukin Prophecy]

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” has earned plenty of money in its week-plus in theaters, but has also proven divisive among fans and critics alike. One of the biggest issues that many appear to have with the film is its lack of screen time for Kelly Marie Tran’s character Rose Tico.


After being introduced in 2017′s “The Last Jedi” as a member of the Resistance (and the first woman of color to be a lead character in a “Star Wars” movie), Rose all but disappeared in “The Rise of Skywalker.”

Tran appears for a little over a minute in a movie than runs 142 minutes.

“Crazy Rich Asians” director Jon M. Chu is pitching a solution.

On Twitter, Chu threw his hat in the ring and offered to direct a TV show about the plucky Resistance fighter.

Ok @disneyplus . Put me in coach. Let’s make this series happen. #RoseTicoDeservedBetter @starwars

— Jon M. Chu (@jonmchu) December 27, 2019
“OK, Disney+. Put me in coach. Let’s make this series happen,” Chu tweeted on Friday along with the hashtag #RoseDeservedBetter. He @-ed the official Star Wars account for good measure.

Co-writer Chris Terrio has responded to criticism about Rose’s smaller role in the saga’s finale. He said that he and co-writer J.J. Abrams “adore” Tran and only used her so little because it was so difficult to weave footage of late actress Carrie Fisher, who played Leia, into the movie.

“We wanted Rose to be the anchor at the rebel base who was with Leia. We thought we couldn’t leave Leia at the base without any of the principals who we love, so Leia and Rose were working together,” Terrio told Awards Daily. “As the process evolved, a few scenes we’d written with Rose and Leia turned out to not meet the standard of photorealism that we’d hoped for. Those scenes unfortunately fell out of the film.”

Tran received racist and sexist harassment after she was originally cast in “The Last Jedi” and eventually decided to leave social media as a result.

In a New York Times essay, Tran lamented her treatment, saying it “reinforced a narrative I had heard my whole life: that I was ‘other,’ that I didn’t belong, that I wasn’t good enough, simply because I wasn’t like them.”

If Disney+ were to green-light a Rose series, it would join several other “Star Wars” related TV shows being produced by the platform, including “The Mandalorian” and several shows expected to premiere in 2020.

Claim a movie is divisive because a heavy fanbase majority disliked character from the previous film didn't get enough screen time brehs...

Also @ a Asian white woman being called a "woman of color"...

What next, a white woman with a Trump orange tan is a "woman of color"?

It's pathetic how they'll write anything to push the agenda and make it seem like the fanbase hates the character because of her ethnicity rather than the reality, she is one mans poorly written character who that man himself said has no place in a Star Wars movie...

 

[MartyMcFly]

This movie makes me realize how so many people fundamentally misunderstand the twist of Vader being Luke's dad

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Even Mike Eisner taking shots



KK is fukking done, he made it a point to praise Iger for the Favreau pick

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Even Mike Eisner taking shots



KK is fukking done, he made it a point to praise Iger for the Favreau pick

She flew too close to the sun

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

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Claim a movie is divisive because a heavy fanbase majority disliked character from the previous film didn't get enough screen time brehs...

Also @ a Asian white woman being called a "woman of color"...

What next, a white woman with a Trump orange tan is a "woman of color"?

It's pathetic how they'll write anything to push the agenda and make it seem like the fanbase hates the character because of her ethnicity rather than the reality, she is one mans poorly written character who that man himself said has no place in a Star Wars movie...

get that weak shyt out of here. no one cares enough about rose to make a tv show about. this is such fake outrage.

the rise of skywalker wasn't that good and the relationship between finn and rose being bushed was dumb because they built it up in TLJ but i rather disney be done with the resistance and every character in it. start from scratch now and let jon favreu have control over it.

 

[MartyMcFly]

get that weak shyt out of here. no one cares enough about rose to make a tv show about. this is such fake outrage.

the rise of skywalker wasn't that good and the relationship between finn and rose being bushed was dumb because they built it up in TLJ but i rather disney be done with the resistance and every character in it. start from scratch now and let jon favreu have control over it.

The only issue ill take with what you said is clearly there are a group of people, no matter how big or small, who do care enough about her character and are upset a prominent asian character in Star Wars, the lone prominent character in Star Wars mind you, was relegated to barely there status in this movie. And they have a right to feel that way and I understand where they're coming from. If enough of them and more people like Jon Chu, who has sway in Hollywood and is Asian, feels that way and can do something about it then more power to them. Claiming a majority of the fanbase dislikes the character because of internet chatter is myopic and fruitless and ignores a whole fanbase of people who, like a lot of us with Finn and Lando, got to see someone on screen in this universe who looks like them. That shouldn't be the case.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

get that weak shyt out of here. no one cares enough about rose to make a tv show about. this is such fake outrage.

the rise of skywalker wasn't that good and the relationship between finn and rose being bushed was dumb because they built it up in TLJ but i rather disney be done with the resistance and every character in it. start from scratch now and let jon favreu have control over it.

So what you're telling me is, a movie that already is a dumpster fire from a plot standpoint needed more Rose Tico because she established a relationship Finn? It would of been "smart" to continue giving screen time to a character the majority of the fanbase downright hated because of that irrelevant relationship?

This is literally the equivalent of complaining about Jar Jar having one 15 second appearance at the end of ROTS...George built his relationship up with he main cast to, but he acknowledged in ROTS there is a bigger story to tell and Jar Jar had played his minor role...Wasting screen time on characters for filler purposes, or in this case, to satisfy the political agenda of a Twitter minority is what's really fukking stupid IMO...

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

The only issue ill take with what you said is clearly there are a group of people, no matter how big or small, who do care enough about her character and are upset a prominent asian character in Star Wars, the lone prominent character in Star Wars mind you, was relegated to barely there status in this movie. And they have a right to feel that way and I understand where they're coming from. If enough of them and more people like Jon Chu, who has sway in Hollywood and is Asian, feels that way and can do something about it then more power to them. Claiming a majority of the fanbase dislikes the character because of internet chatter is myopic and fruitless and ignores a whole fanbase of people who, like a lot of us with Finn and Lando, got to see someone on screen in this universe who looks like them. That shouldn't be the case.

I take it you didn't watch Rogue One...

I'd gladly sign up for a Chirrut (Donnie Yen) Star Wars series...

 

[MartyMcFly]

I take it you didn't watch Rogue One...

I'd gladly sign up for a Chirrut (Donnie Yen) Star Wars series...

My bad. Completely forgot about that. And I’d love to see that too. I’m sure he’s down.

my point is still to dismiss a group of people or someone because of their feelings of how their representation isn’t a good look. And this board supposedly filled to the brim with black people should know better

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

So what you're telling me is, a movie that already is a dumpster fire from a plot standpoint needed more Rose Tico because she established a relationship Finn? It would of been "smart" to continue giving screen time to a character the majority of the fanbase downright hated because of that irrelevant relationship?

This is literally the equivalent of complaining about Jar Jar having one 15 second appearance at the end of ROTS...George built his relationship up with he main cast to, but he acknowledged in ROTS there is a bigger story to tell and Jar Jar had played his minor role...Wasting screen time on characters for filler purposes, or in this case, to satisfy the political agenda of a Twitter minority is what's really fukking stupid IMO...

i don't care to give rose a lot of screen time but it was just dumb to have rose and finn act like nothing never happened and also give finn another possible love interest. it would've made more sense to have finn and rose at the end taking down the ship together.

The only issue ill take with what you said is clearly there are a group of people, no matter how big or small, who do care enough about her character and are upset a prominent asian character in Star Wars, the lone prominent character in Star Wars mind you, was relegated to barely there status in this movie. And they have a right to feel that way and I understand where they're coming from. If enough of them and more people like Jon Chu, who has sway in Hollywood and is Asian, feels that way and can do something about it then more power to them. Claiming a majority of the fanbase dislikes the character because of internet chatter is myopic and fruitless and ignores a whole fanbase of people who, like a lot of us with Finn and Lando, got to see someone on screen in this universe who looks like them. That shouldn't be the case.

i get representation is important but sometimes you gotta know when to pick your fight and this ain't it. there's been more movies starring asian americans and with an all asian american cast this past year than ever. you have more asian american movie stars playing unconventional roles to show their range. you just can't please everyone and i'm not gonna get outraged over something so minuscule.

 

[MartyMcFly]

i don't care to give rose a lot of screen time but it was just dumb to have rose and finn act like nothing never happened and also give finn another possible love interest. it would've made more sense to have finn and rose at the end taking down the ship together.



i get representation is important but sometimes you gotta know when to pick your fight and this ain't it. there's been more movies starring asian americans and with an all asian american cast this past year than ever. you have more asian american movie stars playing unconventional roles to show their range. you just can't please everyone and i'm not gonna get outraged over something so minuscule.

I feel that. But let me ask this since I don’t want to assume. Are you Asian?

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Also @ a Asian white woman being called a "woman of color"...

What next, a white woman with a Trump orange tan is a "woman of color"?

Vietnamese people the same as white people with fukked up skin

Tell a white American that you think they're the same race as a Vietnamese person

There's literslly an entire Star Wars film that drew influence from a war between Americans and Vietnamese.

My issue with Rose isn't the lack of screentime, she was the worst part of TLJ by far, it's the shytty way they wrote her into TROS and then LIED about why her screentime is only a minute and half - literally blaming it on a dead person

They're just full of shyt and caved to the fans, and people who were fans of hers have a right to call that out.

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

I feel that. But let me ask this since I don’t want to assume. Are you Asian?

i am. what made you guess that?

 

[MartyMcFly]

i am. what made you guess that?

Wanted to ask before I said my next thing which was essentially, as a black man, it’s not my place to say someone should or shouldn’t be outraged by this cause it’s not my people. And if you’re not, respect due. But I also think this outrage comes from the “reasoning” Chris terrio gave as to her lack of screen time

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

Wanted to ask before I said my next thing which was essentially, as a black man, it’s not my place to say someone should or shouldn’t be outraged by this cause it’s not my people. And if you’re not, respect due. But I also think this outrage comes from the “reasoning” Chris terrio gave as to her lack of screen time

asian americans in media is a somewhat complex issue for me. i think it's good for everyone to get representation but i'm not going to get worked up or give this one any thought to be frank.