Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Official Thread)

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Coming from him, I doubt it.

I've said this before but I don't the constructs of Jedi and Sith are going to be prominent in this trilogy.
True. And the new canon (and Legends to some extent) has introduced the concept of other force groups not affiliated with the Jedi or Sith so it's definitely possible, although perhaps we find out Snoke's past as a former Sith or Jedi.

And beyond this trilogy I'm sure the Sith will play a major role in some sort of anthology.
 

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Or what if Kylo is gay :ohhh:
And Han and Leia shunned him because of his sexuality and the only person that understood him was Snoke :wow: they go can so many places with this :banderas:
Well Star Wars is a soap opera :troll:
 

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True. And the new canon (and Legends to some extent) has introduced the concept of other force groups not affiliated with the Jedi or Sith so it's definitely possible, although perhaps we find out Snoke's past as a former Sith or Jedi.

And beyond this trilogy I'm sure the Sith will play a major role in some sort of anthology.

They could easily build the next trilogy on that material.
 

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They could easily build the next trilogy on that material.
Speaking of the next trilogy, do you think the Episodes will continue indefinitely (with a 2-5 year gap between trilogies)? Will we have Episode 20 in the 2040's? :banderas:
 

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As long as they don't make a big deal of it, then :yeshrug:

Its war tho why would u shoe horn that shyt in there? The only way we know han and leia fukked is because of their emo ass son. I dont want to see a gay kiss between aliens just shoot shyt * pew pew pew*
 

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You sound like white people when Black-ish first started :russ:


"Why all these black people on my tv allasudden:beli:"

The difference is that white people are on every outlet, all the time, non-stop.

Me being concerned about the representation of this SOLE black character is very different. We aren't in these types of movies often. So yeah, I'd like for the sole black main-character in this franchise to actually be somewhat masculine and heroic...not some sissified gay fawning over a 35 year old man who named him.
 

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I don't have a problem with gay characters in star wars but it would be real fukked up to make the first black main character a homo
 

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The difference is that white people are on every outlet, all the time, non-stop.

Me being concerned about the representation of this SOLE black character is very different. We aren't in these types of movies often. So yeah, I'd like for the sole black main-character in this franchise to actually be somewhat masculine and heroic...not some sissified gay fawning over a 35 year old man who named him.
Him being gay doesn't mean he'll be sissified.
 

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The difference is that white people are on every outlet, all the time, non-stop.

Me being concerned about the representation of this SOLE black character is very different. We aren't in these types of movies often. So yeah, I'd like for the sole black main-character in this franchise to actually be somewhat masculine and heroic...not some sissified gay fawning over a 35 year old man who named him.
What's wrong with being gay? Not all gays are sissified, there are gay marines who would kick your ass and then eat it
 

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Him being gay doesn't mean he'll be sissified.

In film, it's a non-masculine attribute.

Especially in this series, which has him growing close to the female lead. It immediately makes him a "safe nikka". Making Finn gay would *mostly* be about appeasing the "Boycott Star Wars" people. So not only was he basically a weak, jobber....but now he's also gay and basically will just be the "black gay best friend" for the rest of the series.

I really hope Boyega is weary of all of this and is fighting for his representation in this franchise.

What's wrong with being gay? Not all gays are sissified, there are gay marines who would kick your ass and then eat it

The bottom line is that I've *never* seen so much of a movement towards making a character in a big, blockbuster franchise gay...until Finn showed up and showed some interested in Rey.

Never.

I've not seen this push towards the MCU. Not towards the DCU. Not towards Fast and Furious franchise. Never seen anyone begging Tom Cruise characters to be gay. Fox's X-Men universe has used every symbolic gesture to draw a parallel between Mutant rights and Gay/Black/Minority Rights without ever having shown an actual gay character and I've NEVER seen anyone calling for them to do so.

But all of a sudden, there is this massive push to force LF to make our first black hero gay? You mean to tell me people are just suddenly "ready for it"? Give me a break. This push is clearly about who FINN is and less about gay representation. Why is every media outlet suddenly writing articles about the two interactions that Finn and Poe had? The white dudes who wanted to "Boycott Star Wars" are now jumping on board to this idea because at least he won't be a sexual threat.

Saying "But it would be positive for gay representation" is fine, but that doesn't explain this public outcry for Finn and Poe when it's never existed for any other character before.

Also, it's valid to not want this character to be some double or triple minority. Like, we can't just have the ONE black character that is like other male heroes in nearly every form of media? Finn as a Black Hero can still be salvaged, but making him gay basically just makes him "PC Representation Man" and less of an actual character.

Plenty of white characters out there in blockbuster movies. Make Kylo gay if you want to be represented.Let our black hero just be *that guy* for once.

Lastly, for all this hoopla...the characters were never meant to be gay in the first place. Boyega has come out twice and said that they were just buddies. This whole thing started because Oscar Isaac made a joke on Ellen that he was "playing romance in the cockpit"...and people just jumped on it from there. You really want tumblr dictating this story?
 

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Can I have some non-tumblr examples of this apparently historic, unprecedented push for Finn to be gay?
 

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Can I have some non-tumblr examples of this apparently historic, unprecedented push for Finn to be gay?
Breh? :dwillhuh:

We've been talking about them all throughout this thread.

I've posted two examples of Boyega himself being asked to comment on this. First time he was "It's all in Oscars Head", second time? But people all but ignored his statement and just kept egging on about it, so finally, the second time he had to be all "well, ya never know :shaq:" just to get people off his back.

The JJ interview I just posted.

All the articles and such I cited earlier.

The director of the movie Rian Johnson posted some of their fanart.

Look, you can call me out for exaggerating...but I don't think that even you can deny that the main focus on Finn since this movie came out has been on fukking "Stormpilot".


I'm not making this up....search "John Boyega" in Bing/Google and click on the news articles.
 
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