Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Official Thread)

[Eddy Gordo]

None of what i said is not part of the story? Darth cut of his son hand then in the next instant asked him to rule the universe togeather?

All the things you mentioned had context or buildup to explain the scenario, you simple minded mother fukker.

They completely changed this man cold turkey to try to Garner some Kylo sympathy.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

This is an impressive 16 bit reenactment of the final scene

 

[Devilinurear]

All the things you mentioned had context or buildup to explain the scenario, you simple minded mother fukker.

They completely changed this man cold turkey to try to Garner some Kylo sympathy.

What was the build up for Darth being luke and Leia father?

And are you the same person you were 10 years ago?

 

[Eddy Gordo]

What was the build up for Darth being luke and Leia father?

And are you the same person you were 10 years ago?

They kept mentioning Luke's father throughout the OT.
His aunt and uncle mention Anakin being a pilot.
Obi wan mentions how he was a great Jedi.
Everybody made him sound like he was this great awesome dude. That's what makes the twist great and payoff in ROTJ mean something.

RJs twist don't actively change the narrative to any significant degree so it feels like the movie is just playing "gotcha".

Go back and read my previous posts in this thread. Luke being a different person ain't the problem. It's the lack of explanation and buildup to changing a character. Without explaining how why the movie just does things and didn't sell the audience on it.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

What was the build up for Darth being luke and Leia father?

And are you the same person you were 10 years ago?

And yes I'm the same person I was ten years ago.

 

[MarcP]

This is a coherent plot. It’s not rocket science. The only other medium I’ve seen show such contempt, animosity, and disrespect to its audience is how Vince and Stephanie McMahon and Kevin Dunn write what they book seemingly because they hate or are ashamed of pro wrestling. There’s been so many minor changes made to this film in this thread and these ideas here that so simply and logically would explore the questions asked by the end of force awakens in a satisfying manner. I don’t see how anyone could complain if these were what’s in the film. Just write Finn a little better than force awakens and give him some purpose in last Jedi (have him become a captain and eventually a general who even leads the attack on a first order fortress like Lando did in ROTJ where he has his big showdown with an actually fleshed our captain Phasma to bring his story full circle of going from faceless stormtrooper to deserter to taking up Luke’s old lightsaber to protect his friends to rebel leader) and you’ve got a classic. The universe expands and explores new characters, the old ones give them the rub/stamp of approval by helping them and the old guys fill new roles that fit their character types. You get a diverse cast and a strong female lead without pandering while you’re at it and it actually makes sense. It gives a great story to this movie and sets up something huge in the next. +10 for some great ideas.

Wasn't fukking with 90% of TLJ so there's not much to work with but I thought Rose, Finn, and Poe should have gone to Canto Bight.

Rose should have been been working intelligence for the Resistance. She'd been tracking the owner of the casino who was working as a broker for the First Order since before the beginning of TFA. The owner has been keeping records of all the crazy backroom deals he's made for the FO and Rose believes there's a big deal bout to go down.
Initially its just a mission for Finn and Rose but Poe is insistent on going with them.
while this big meeting is going down, Rose hacks the broker's treasure trove of information and finds all kinds of top secret FO tech and most importantly for Finn's character arc, information on the people who stole children like him from their families and now Finn sees this as a way to save stormtroopers who were like him who didn't want any part of that shyt but didn't have the chance to leave or the courage like he did(You can actually give Finn an interesting arc. Who knew?).

Poe's been seeing Leia inaction as signs of the same weakness that got the Republic blown to hell so once he put together a strike team in secret to come to Canto Bight. They kill the Casino owner and a bunch of the rich aliens doing backroom deals during their meeting. This reminds Finn of the way Kylo and Phasma gunned down that village at the beginning of TFA. He's not fukking with it. Rose almost joins with Poe because she hates that her sister died but Finn convinces her not to.

The Resistance is split ideologically between Leia and Poe at the end of the movie. Poe is on his radical shyt and wants to destroy the First Order completely while Finn wants to help save some of those stormtroopers on some Nat Turner shyt now that he has information about the people helping the FO acquire children.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

What was the build up for Darth being luke and Leia father?

And are you the same person you were 10 years ago?

Jesus Christ this is bad trolling. The reveal of Darth Vader being Luke’s father universally recognized as one of the great plot twists in American film history. You know this.

 

[ORDER_66]

Jesus Christ this is bad trolling. The reveal of Darth Vader being Luke’s father universally recognized as one of the great plot twists in American film history. You know this.

I believe this dude is a disney shill or some shyt... it's like he's not even listening to the criticism at all... something is inherently wrong when he cannot see there are major issues with this movie...

 

[Hopeofmypeople]

What was the build up for Darth being luke and Leia father?

And are you the same person you were 10 years ago?

Your morales would forever be anchored down if they made a fundamental difference in your life. It doesn’t matter if a hundred years pas you would unshakeable in your belief. Luke through his sheer belief redeemed his father the right hand man to essentially the devil and he was willing to kill a kid because he detected darkness in him.

 

[wire28]

These muthafukkas are crazy... 30 people gonna defeat an entire army...

got damn galaxy quest is better than this new star wars shyt

 

[Devilinurear]

They kept mentioning Luke's father throughout the OT.
His aunt and uncle mention Anakin being a pilot.
Obi wan mentions how he was a great Jedi.
Everybody made him sound like he was this great awesome dude. That's what makes the twist great and payoff in ROTJ mean something.

RJs twist don't actively change the narrative to any significant degree so it feels like the movie is just playing "gotcha".

Go back and read my previous posts in this thread. Luke being a different person ain't the problem. It's the lack of explanation and buildup to changing a character. Without explaining how why the movie just does things and didn't sell the audience on it.

I watched the same movie as you a luke had a lapse in judgment and about to kill his nephew. His father turned to the dark side so luke was tempted to take the easy way out for one second and it cost him dearly and he was disillusioned.

And while Darth being his father is a great twist from the story they were telling in a new hope it makes no fukking sense Darth didn't know luke and Leia where his children when luke had his fukking last name!

 

[Devilinurear]

Your morales would forever be anchored down if they made a fundamental difference in your life. It doesn’t matter if a hundred years pas you would unshakeable in your belief. Luke through his sheer belief redeemed his father the right hand man to essentially the devil and he was willing to kill a kid because he detected darkness in him.

His father was a jedi for years but killed children when he was angered.
Also he didn't do it

 

[Devilinurear]

Jesus Christ this is bad trolling. The reveal of Darth Vader being Luke’s father universally recognized as one of the great plot twists in American film history. You know this.

It was great twist I didn't say it wasn't but there was no build up or clues to look back on to say you saw it coming.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

I watched the same movie as you a luke had a lapse in judgment and about to kill his nephew. His father turned to the dark side so luke was tempted to take the easy way out for one second and it cost him dearly and he was disillusioned.

And while Darth being his father is a great twist from the story they were telling in a new hope it makes no fukking sense Darth didn't know luke and Leia where his children when luke had his fukking last name!

He never got told Lukes name in episode 4 and Leia has a different name. He probably learned his name sometime between 4 and 5 you know when Luke was a fukking war hero and everyone knew about him. He also didn't do that reveal until the end of episode 5 where they meet again.

Troll harder to defend lazy TLJ writing please. Keep going

 

[cartierhoe]

The anger and fantasy booking in this thread reminds me of myself and the brehs in TSC when WWE doesn't book an angle like we want

I was thinking the same thing lmao