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wasn't a perfect season, but damn.

a great show so far. up there with TCW/Rebels/Mando shyt all over boba fett show
 

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This one definitely felt the most like a lower budgeted show. Same way Boba Fett ended on one small street with everyone there.

IMO one of the most remarkable things about this show is how they have been able to hide the TV-show-budget production limitations.

A lot of the scenes in this show wouldn't have looked out of place in a big budget movie.

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IMO one of the most remarkable things about this show is how they have been able to hide the TV-show-budget production limitations.

A lot of the scenes in this show wouldn't have looked out of place in a big budget movie.

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Nah. The budget was obvious throughout.

Reuse of the same sets multiple times. Mon Mothra’s house. Antiquity shop. Especially the prison 3 parter.

But the fact each of the sets had so much thought and personality in the design overcame that. Which made it even more obvious how lazy Obi-WAN’s and Boba’s set design were.
 

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Nah. The budget was obvious throughout.

Reuse of the same sets multiple times. Mon Mothra’s house. Antiquity shop.

e-grow that happens for reasons other than budget. it depends on the narrative and here (apart from one or two crowd scenes) possibly it didn't look like a TV budget. point being is that the sets they reused didn't look like TV sets and the reuse fit the story.

Especially the prison 3 parter.

they were locked in a minimalist prison so it makes sense. yeah fortuitous that the story fit the minimalist design but who are we to say that that was a "compromise" and that with a bigger budget they would have done something else.

But the fact each of the sets had so much thought and personality in the design overcame that.

which is the point and the reason why it didn't look TV cheap-ish or compromised.

Which made it even more obvious how lazy Obi-WAN’s and Boba’s set design were.
 

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e-grow that happens for reasons other than budget. it depends on the narrative and here (apart from one or two crowd scenes) possibly it didn't look like a TV budget. point being is that the sets they reused didn't look like TV sets and the reuse fit the story.



they were locked in a minimalist prison so it makes sense. yeah fortuitous that the story fit the minimalist design but who are we to say that that was a "compromise" and that with a bigger budget they would have done something else.



which is the point and the reason why it didn't look TV cheap-ish or compromised.
Little boy. Stop acting like I stepped on your favorite toy. It’s budget. Shooting in real locations vs that giant ILM screen is more money.

It’s budget for the main reason we already know they can change sets every episode. The Mandalorian tells a different story every week with multiple sets. But they use that giant screen. The Ahsoka episode was a masteclass in set design and we only went to that location once.

The fact is Mon Mothra probably wouldn’t be having secret meetings in her home which could be easily spied on. The fact is they wouldn’t have a small room with five desk for construction for a large operation(which is obviously reused to look like separate floors in the prison break).

Mon Mothra’s daughter just happen to have her little religious meeting in her house? Come on.
 
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This one definitely felt the most like a lower budgeted show. Same way Boba Fett ended on one small street with everyone there.
Obi wan looked the cheapest. This show looked great. Real sets. Seemingly real explosions. The worst looking thing was the finale end credit scene with all it's CGI
 

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Little boy.

seriously ...:mjlol:

Stop acting like I stepped on your favorite toy. It’s budget. Shooting in real locations vs that giant ILM screen is more money.

It’s budget for the main reason we already know they can change sets every episode. The Mandalorian tells a different story every week with multiple sets. But they use that giant screen. The Ahsoka episode was a masteclass in set design and we only went to that location once.

it's not "A" giant screen PLUS the graphics are not ready as presented on screen. they still have to be rendered in post. so relative price depends on where you filmed and what you filmed.

The fact is Mon Mothra probably wouldn’t be having secret meetings in her home which could be easily spied on. The fact is they wouldn’t have a small room with five desk for construction for a large operation(which is obviously reused to look like separate floors in the prison break).

Mon Mothra’s daughter just happen to have her little religious meeting in her house? Come on.

it is not her "house" it is a residence and embassy property. as such meetings of all sorts take place there. think of it like no. 10 downing street (if you know what that is) and it might help.

"seven desks, seven rooms, seven floors ..."

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whatever level of minor criticism could be levelled at production quality this is a world away from clearly TV budget constrained offerings from disney and others ..

the rest of the babble i leave to you ... :hubie:
 

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Obi wan looked the cheapest. This show looked great. Real sets. Seemingly real explosions. The worst looking thing was the finale end credit scene with all it's CGI
Obi Wan was lazy

Boba looked the cheapest. That power rangers chase was horrendous.


And because of the two other times we went to Tatooine in the Mandalorian it didn’t look as bad.
 

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seriously ...:mjlol:





it's not "A" giant screen PLUS the graphics are not ready as presented on screen. they still have to be rendered in post. so relative price depends on where you filmed and what you filmed.



it is not her "house" it is a residence and embassy property. as such meetings of all sorts take place there. think of it like no. 10 downing street (if you know what that is) and it might help.


"seven desks, seven rooms, seven floors ..."

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whatever level of minor criticism could be levelled at production quality this is a world away from clearly TV budget constrained offerings from disney and others ..

the rest of the babble i leave to you ... :hubie:
Filming locations are a matter of paying more people to travel to set up and move and breakdown weeks ahead of time( not to mention weather).Plus you are paying locals to shutdown locations and extra security to keep people safe. Soundstages are central locations were you aren’t paying extra people. Unless you are doing Davy Jones level effects, these new digital soundstages have an advantage in budgeting.

Embassies get wire tapped all the time. :russ:You’re not helping your argument. The point is the whole point of spies is to keep your enemies off balance. You would have multiple meeting places. Just like he Luthen met his source in an unusual location Instead of his antiquity shop.

you ever heard of the presidential SCIF?

Bringing a shady financier into a government building for personal meeting instead of just some “random” run in your argument more flimsy

A her car is government property as well but we know how secure that is.


The production quality isn’t any part of the criticism. My point is the quality of the production hid the internal logic criticism.
 
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You missed the entire point of Mon Mothma if you think she should be having secret meetings in secret locations.
She is a member of the Senate and a public figure, she's not going to be sneaking around in dark alleys. Her own driver is watching her, how would someone as public facing as her sneak away? She has a public image she puts forward but her goals are secret. There's a reason Luthen's shop is public as well. They are hiding in plain site, and that is by design.
 

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A whole other scene where Vel and Mon Mothma travel across town to see her daughter's Bible study in a 45min show?
That’s the point I’m making. Those are the kind of decisions you make for budget reasons. Why build a set for the Huxtable kid’s friends? Just have them always meet in the Huxtable house.

Why would a religious group of several rich families meet in a small dining room?

We’ve seen the Mandalorian build a bunch of one use sets( the meat locker bounty set in Boba Fett) but that’s because they save money with digital soundstages.
 

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You missed the entire point of Mon Mothma if you think she should be having secret meetings in secret locations.
She is a member of the Senate and a public figure, she's not going to be sneaking around in dark alleys. Her own driver is watching her, how would someone as public facing as her sneak away? She has a public image she puts forward but her goals are secret. There's a reason Luthen's shop is public as well. They are hiding in plain site, and that is by design.

they showed one time where she did plan to sneak off. the one where she made up some reason to take her daughter somewhere but the daughter changed her mind and didn't want to go anyway.

breh's slow so missed it. i didn't bother to type that all out earlier but now you bring it up.

but breh yeah, as you say, she was always going to need some official, above-board, looking pretext to cover her tracks.

rich powerful mothma ain't gonna be sneaking about in the bowels of coruscant.
 
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