Star Trek Discovery Official Thread

[Roman Brady]

On its "own merits" is subjective in this case. However you're cherry picking/avoiding the movies that have by using a poor or skewed qualifier. Star Wars made money with two movies that both had female leads. Doesn't matter how much you think it made, it made enough for the studios to make more....and everyone likes the female lead (Rey), so again, purely objective here, female leads work.

I guess the point missed you that some franchise are sold on the name and it doesn't matter who the lead is (ie Jurassic park). Clowns thought Chris Pratt was the shyt off of that but it was just smoke and mirrors. Everyone hated jyn orso but rogue one did business, why because it's star wars.

Mad Max is critically acclaimed on damn near every site.

where do I even say it's not a good movie? This site is weird. Can non of you walk and chew gum at the same time? I said it left money on the table and that could be attributed to WOM that furiosa is actually the star and max is a bytch..

 

[Killigraphy]

I guess the point missed you that some franchise are sold on the name and it doesn't matter who the lead is (ie Jurassic park). Clowns thought Chris Pratt was the shyt off of that but it was just smoke and mirrors. Everyone hated jyn orso but rogue one did business, why because it's star wars.

It was an irrelevant and cherry picked point by you. Hence why its subjective, and has nothing to do with anything you correlate it with. The movie did good. people like Rey 'nuff said.

where do I even say it's not a good movie? This site is weird. Can non of you walk and chew gum at the same time? I said it left money on the table and that could be attributed to WOM that furiosa is actually the star and max is a bytch..

"left money on the table" is an irrelevant and non logical platitude. It made triple what is cost to make, and beat out its predecessors in the box office. You're reaching for strawmen arguments, stop reaching, chew more gum.

 

[Roman Brady]

It was an irrelevant and cherry picked point by you. Hence why its subjective, and has nothing to do with anything you correlate it with. The movie did good. people like Rey 'nuff said.

it's irrelevant that a juggernaut franchise will make money in spite of its lead and then when I use examples to illustrate its "cherry picking" I say orso you are talking Rey again, lol

"left money on the table" is an irrelevant and non logical platitude. It made triple what is cost to make, and beat out its predecessors in the box office. You're reaching for strawmen arguments, stop reaching, chew more gum.

when are you going to get off the strip and quit it with "talking point" cliches news commentators and members of academia exhaust. To say mad max fury road could have made more money but probably didn't due to gender politics isn't a "strawmen" argument. You should look up the proper way to use that term..And are you really comparing the 2015 flick with the help of Imax and inflation to the road movies that helped establish it? Wow

 

[Killigraphy]

it's irrelevant that a juggernaut franchise will make money in spite of its lead and then when I use examples to illustrate its "cherry picking" I say orso you are talking Rey again, lol



when are you going to get off the strip and quit it with "talking point" cliches news commentators exhaust. To say mad max fury road could have made more money but probably didn't due to gender politics isn't a "strawmen" argument. You should look up the proper way to use that term..And are you really comparing the 2015 flick with the help of Imax and inflation to the road movies that helped establish it? Wow

You misconstrued my point, and you quoted me out of context = Straw man, you even provided a red herring. This far in, you should just move on as you're making your points less and less credible, especially since they're opinions not based on any facts whatsoever, I know, I know, "welcome to the internet".

 

[Canada Goose]

Spoiler

at the Captain dying in episode 2


Micheal being a prisoner in Starfleet

I'm up to "Way of the Warrior" in DS9 in the beginning of season 4, I kept putting off watching it because the episode is a hour and a half, but these first two Discovery episodes centering around Starfleet beefing with the Kilgons got me hype to watch it

 

[theflyest]

this show is dope

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

is this jabroni really complaining about diversity on a star trek show?

 

[Roman Brady]

You misconstrued my point, and you quoted me out of context = Straw man,

whatever dude you came at me, scrutinizing something as minute as "on its own merits". Was wonder woman an established franchise? All the public had was Lynda Carter to go off, the success of that movie was all to do with girl power. And you want to talk I misconstrueding points what was the relevance stating mad max was critically acclaimed again ?


Ps the genesis of this whole exchange originated from a point which I since haven't deviated I can't create a statement when I framed the discourse

 

[MidniteJay]

is this jabroni really complaining about diversity on a star trek show?

I guess whoever ya'll going back and forth with is a real moron cause I got him on ignore.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I guess whoever ya'll going back and forth with is a real moron cause I got him on ignore.

Yeah you and @Dominic Brehetto seem to have the right idea

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

This show is good, I loved it. I just seen the first two episodes. Too bad I have to watch it illegally though, I would have loved to watch it on on demand.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Some people really hate women.

 

[Devilinurear]

Some people really hate women.

Or jus really love men

 

[Killigraphy]

First episode seemed like more of an Easter egg than anything else.

Calling Michael #1
Getting stranded in a desert planet - call back to Picard/Wesley
They're pretty much put in a Kobayashi Maru scenario...which Michael passes of course.
The mention of Kahless.
Adding Sarek is a nice touch.

Episode two - Black excellence . No real complaints. We learn more about Michael being put through the Vulcan trials, disobey orders and break the chain of command to save the crew...shes a mix of Spock and Kirk...and I like it. I'm not a fan of the hairless Klingons but eh the movie did it, and it doesn't throw me so its acceptable. The ending was a nice little cliff hanger. The first two episode of TOS weren't nearly as "fun" so this show might have something going for it.

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

First episode seemed like more of an Easter egg than anything else.

Calling Michael #1
Getting stranded in a desert planet - call back to Picard/Wesley
They're pretty much put in a Kobayashi Maru scenario...which Michael pass of course.
The mention of Kahless.
Adding Sarek is a nice touch.

Episode two - Black excellence . No real complaints. We learn more about Michael being put through the Vulcan trials, disobey orders and break the chain of command to save the crew...shes a mix of Spock and Kirk...and I like it. I'm not a fan of the hairless Klingons but eh the movie did it, and it doesn't throw me so its acceptable. The ending was a nice little cliff hanger. The first two episode of TOS weren't nearly as "fun" so this show might have something going for it.

As a person who never seen Star Trek before, everything felt fresh and new. I didn’t even know Easter eggs were in the first ep.