SSJ 3 Goku vs The Whole Marvel on Earth

[Jplaya2023]

Franklin Richards >>>>>>>>>> *


He controls reality. Basically his powers are equal to the writer of the damn comic he's in OR the infinity gaunlet. Take your pick.

The list:
He's immortal.
He created a universe just because AS A KID.
He fixed Ben after he was possessed in Fear Itself AS A KID.
Eternity and the Celestials admitted he was on their level AS A KID.
He brought a Galactus' dead corpse back to life under the tuteluge of his future self.

As a kid he would turn Goku inside out and backwards without a second thought. He's one of the most powerful things in the Marvel Universe.

DBZ lost.

being immortal has 0 to do with fighting. Vegeta and Frieza were seeking to be immortal but they would of never been able to beat SSJ goku.

Creating a universe again has 0 to do with fighting

The rest of that stuff again has 0 to do with fighting.

Show me scans, videos of him fighting and doing shyt at the level of DBZ.

 

[Jplaya2023]

You want reaction speed/dexterity?

Surfer traipses every corner of a planet in seconds. That's not linear

Surfer fighting multiple scumbags in space

But hell, even if his reaction speed wasn't good enough (which it is), he doesn't even need to fight Goku straight up.

He can just blast the pajama wearin' fruit...

...While traveling at speeds fast enough to cross lightyears in seconds?

6 trillion miles in SECONDS breh...whether that kind of speed fully translates to Surfer using them hands or not, Goku ain't gonna be able to hit him, period.

Impressive space feat, but goku can move fast and fire ki blast at multiple spaceships as well. See dragonball against the red ribbon army for that.

Again i can post scans of surfer being tagged by being on a much much lower level than dbz, so saying he can react to goku or the Z fighters is incorrect to say the least.

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

Impressive space feat, but goku can move fast and fire ki blast at multiple spaceships as well. See dragonball against the red ribbon army for that.

Again i can post scans of surfer being tagged by being on a much much lower level than dbz, so saying he can react to goku or the Z fighters is incorrect to say the least.

And I can post scenes of Goku getting sonned by Chi Chi, who's got no powers other than being a massive bytch

And you can call them comedic if you want, but so are those scans of Squirrel Girl putting Thanos down and Darkseid working at McDonald's

Simply put every character has those days when they're written either too strong or too weak.

 

[Mr Bubbles]

Again in DBZ ki blast are concentrated so that they don't destroy earth instantly. I can point to many examples of this if you want, but you seem to be familiar with DBZ.

Again Cell received a zenaki and powered up to almost equal with SSJ2 gohan, so since gohan was stronger he could also blow up the solar system if he pleased as well.

Gohan held back quite a bit because he lost roughly half his strength and cell didn't go full power from the start so it was equal, again that evidence get's thrown out the window. Cell was ready to finish it but vegeta interrupted the blast and gohan unleashed full power all towards cell.

What? You still aren't explaining how Cell or Gohan could blow up a Solar System. All that energy had to go somewhere. It couldn't just instantly dissipate after Cell was killed. You are making shyt up. Cell didn't go full power? He said he his blast would destroy the Solar System. There is no way around that. He canonically said that. Gohan would have had to put out equal or greater power. That whole sequence was BS. Cell could not destroy a Solar System. No one could.

Why wouldn't Susanoo seal Goku? Don't say shyt without backing it up. Susanoo has an ethereal sword. Goku couldn't block it. Goku is obviously faster and stronger than Itachi but his fighting style puts him at a disadvantage. Itachi always starts with Genjutsu. Either from the eyes or fingers. Goku always stares down his opponent. He would get caught and not even know it.

 

[jdashmaj]

being immortal has 0 to do with fighting. Vegeta and Frieza were seeking to be immortal but they would of never been able to beat SSJ goku.

Creating a universe again has 0 to do with fighting

The rest of that stuff again has 0 to do with fighting.

Show me scans, videos of him fighting and doing shyt at the level of DBZ.

lol it has everything to do with
DBZ is flashy Goku is not seeing Phoenix,Surfer,Richard,Thanos,Galactus, and of his other Heralds smh DBZ is flash no substance. Goku can teleport all he wants.....so can Nightcrawler, he can blow up planets, So can everyone I've mention plus a whole lot of other characters. nikkas was posting video on so talking about Kenshiro could be Goku because he was levitating it means nothing it's just the animator trying to convey power cause anyone in the right mind know Goku could kill him no problem pre-Namek saga.

Goku cannot hurt these characters so all those little cute backflips, teleports, glowing hair, fire balls etc will not faze any other characters so if we going purely off scrapping he still loses cause he can't hurt any of them.

Hell Goku probably can't beat

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[Jplaya2023]

What? You still aren't explaining how Cell or Gohan could blow up a Solar System. All that energy had to go somewhere. It couldn't just instantly dissipate after Cell was killed. You are making shyt up. Cell didn't go full power? He said he his blast would destroy the Solar System. There is no way around that. He canonically said that. Gohan would have had to put out equal or greater power. That whole sequence was BS. Cell could not destroy a Solar System. No one could.

Why wouldn't Susanoo seal Goku? Don't say shyt without backing it up. Susanoo has an ethereal sword. Goku couldn't block it. Goku is obviously faster and stronger than Itachi but his fighting style puts him at a disadvantage. Itachi always starts with Genjutsu. Either from the eyes or fingers. Goku always stares down his opponent. He would get caught and not even know it.

After cell was killed the majority of the energy from the blast dispersed and was used on cell. I'm not making up anything cell said he could destroy the solar system, and got into a ki battle with gohan in which he lost because gohan was stronger. Had cell just released a kamehameha into the solar system it's possible he could of destroyed it. You obviously have to remember AT wasn't going to have the solar system being destroyed after gohan won that would be bad writing. But we will agree to disagree

Look i'm the biggest itachi stan on the internet but goku powering up would likely kill itachi and all of the naruto verse. Goku can sense attacks so he would dodge it or IT outta it and kill poor itachi

 

[Jplaya2023]

lol it has everything to do with
DBZ is flashy Goku is not seeing Phoenix,Surfer,Richard,Thanos,Galactus, and of his other Heralds smh DBZ is flash no substance. Goku can teleport all he wants.....so can Nightcrawler, he can blow up planets, So can everyone I've mention plus a whole lot of other characters. nikkas was posting video on so talking about Kenshiro could be Goku because he was levitating it means nothing it's just the animator trying to convey power cause anyone in the right mind know Goku could kill him no problem pre-Namek saga.

Goku cannot hurt these characters so all those little cute backflips, teleports, glowing hair, fire balls etc will not faze any other characters so if we going purely off scrapping he still loses cause he can't hurt any of them.

Hell Goku probably can't beat

and

Show me these people fighting, don't spout to me about creating dimensions. I want purely their fighting feats. Nothing else. I posted plenty of arguments in favor of goku

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

being immortal has 0 to do with fighting. Vegeta and Frieza were seeking to be immortal but they would of never been able to beat SSJ goku.

Creating a universe again has 0 to do with fighting

The rest of that stuff again has 0 to do with fighting.

Show me scans, videos of him fighting and doing shyt at the level of DBZ.

Breh, Goku is a master fighter and all, but dudes who can put out massive amounts of energy, withstand supernovas, and travel at trillions of mles per hour don't NEED to know how to scrap.

Goku may be a better martial artist than all of these guys, but he'd be dead before he even landed a finger on Franklin Richards, and all the attacks in the world wouldn't matter to people as tough as Galactus or Mr. Radd. You saw those scans of a worn-down, dying Galactus tanking that planetary collision, right? What's Goku gonna hit him with that'll put him down for good, especially when he's at full power?

It's like how Webster is a black belt, but he ain't gonna stop no dude with a gun

 

[Mr Bubbles]

After cell was killed the majority of the energy from the blast dispersed and was used on cell. I'm not making up anything cell said he could destroy the solar system, and got into a ki battle with gohan in which he lost because gohan was stronger. Had cell just released a kamehameha into the solar system it's possible he could of destroyed it. You obviously have to remember AT wasn't going to have the solar system being destroyed after gohan won that would be bad writing. But we will agree to disagree

Look i'm the biggest itachi stan on the internet but goku powering up would likely kill itachi and all of the naruto verse. Goku can sense attacks so he would dodge it or IT outta it and kill poor itachi

You aren't explaining how it would have destroyed the Solar System. It wasn't wide enough. It didn't have enough energy since both blasts dissipated pretty quickly after the struggle. Would the blast have hit something and expand to engulf the Solar System? How? They dissipated too quickly to have that type of energy. Only thing that would have worked would have been blowing up the Sun.

Goku wouldn't have time to power up. Itachi ALWAYS starts with Genjutsu. Genjutsu is instant. You don't even know you are in it when it happens. How can he IT out of Genjutus? His body is frozen. He wont even know he is in it. Goku has never fought illusions iirc. Genjutsu into Susanoo is gg for Goku. Goku is stronger. BTW Mr. Satan, the cameraman and reporter were fine around Goku, Cell and Gohan powering up. Itachi will be fine.

 

[Hersh]

who knows what else goku was capable of.. if he always held back.

 

[Green negs and spam]

Somebody needs to start up a Tetsuo and Akira vs Marvel thread, it would be far more interesting.

 

[Bruh Man 5th Flo]

the sheer power of DB Z characters blows the most powerful Marvel characters out of the water. Unless a character was supplemented by an omnipotent object, i.e. Infinity gauntlet or cosmic cube, there would be no contest. Super Saiyans can do anything and are challenged only by other beings that are omnipotent. Only omnipotent beings in the marvel universe would even pose an annoyance to the Saiyans

SSJ 3 or 4 Goku vs. Phoenix, vs. Thor, vs. Sentry: no contest. Only reality warping characters like the Beyonder would cause problems, but I see the saiyans' immense control and manipulation of energy to trump all. The saiyans can not only manipulate energy, but have immense telepathic and telekinetic abilities. They can also manipulate/ create matter and transverse space-time instantly. Super Saiyans are suppossed to be the perfect being and fighter; their main ability being to adapt and overcome any opponent they encounter, making them, by definition, unconquerable and all-powerful.

each Saiyan is a Thor, is a Phoenix, is a Galactus. They can destroy solar systems, control and create matter, and withstand attacks that could accomplish the aforementioned feats. None of these people would stand a chance. Thor, maybe, phoenix, maybe. Galactus, yes. But thats PROBABLY it. Saiyans can disintegrate Stars .C'mon, be reasonable.

Franklin Richards....yes...he is the marvel character with the MOST potential, but he's still a KID. I don't see him beating a ruthless Vegeta in a fight, especially if vegeta gets the jump on him. You guys are underestimating how fast these DBZ characters fight. They are freakin fighting at damn near light speed.....wtf, lol

do'nt get me wrong..marvel has MONSTERS on the battlefield. Black Bolt can destroy cities with a whisper, you got shapeshifters, telepaths, etc....i'm not saying it would be a cakewalk for the DBZ guys, but i don't see marvel beating them in a fight.....SO THE fukk WHAT people are chillin in black holes.....so.....Buu was going from solar system to solar system turning fukkers into candy then destroying the solar systems....with ease...

MARVEL VS DBZ....make it happen toriyama

 

[billsburydoughboy]

the sheer power of DB Z characters blows the most powerful Marvel characters out of the water. Unless a character was supplemented by an omnipotent object, i.e. Infinity gauntlet or cosmic cube, there would be no contest. Super Saiyans can do anything and are challenged only by other beings that are omnipotent. Only omnipotent beings in the marvel universe would even pose an annoyance to the Saiyans

SSJ 3 or 4 Goku vs. Phoenix, vs. Thor, vs. Sentry: no contest. Only reality warping characters like the Beyonder would cause problems, but I see the saiyans' immense control and manipulation of energy to trump all. The saiyans can not only manipulate energy, but have immense telepathic and telekinetic abilities. They can also manipulate/ create matter and transverse space-time instantly. Super Saiyans are suppossed to be the perfect being and fighter; their main ability being to adapt and overcome any opponent they encounter, making them, by definition, unconquerable and all-powerful.

each Saiyan is a Thor, is a Phoenix, is a Galactus. They can destroy solar systems, control and create matter, and withstand attacks that could accomplish the aforementioned feats. None of these people would stand a chance. Thor, maybe, phoenix, maybe. Galactus, yes. But thats PROBABLY it. Saiyans can disintegrate Stars .C'mon, be reasonable.

Franklin Richards....yes...he is the marvel character with the MOST potential, but he's still a KID. I don't see him beating a ruthless Vegeta in a fight, especially if vegeta gets the jump on him. You guys are underestimating how fast these DBZ characters fight. They are freakin fighting at damn near light speed.....wtf, lol

do'nt get me wrong..marvel has MONSTERS on the battlefield. Black Bolt can destroy cities with a whisper, you got shapeshifters, telepaths, etc....i'm not saying it would be a cakewalk for the DBZ guys, but i don't see marvel beating them in a fight.....SO THE fukk WHAT people are chillin in black holes.....so.....Buu was going from solar system to solar system turning fukkers into candy then destroying the solar systems....with ease...

MARVEL VS DBZ....make it happen toriyama

I agree, lets say for the sake of this argument Goku couldn't beat these guys. Lets say Galactus or somebody kills Goku on their first encounter. Goku would go back to heaven and train with the kais then come back and push that nikkas wig in with ease.

I mean you look at Hulk. Some of his key features is he gets stronger the madder he gets. Broly shares that same feature but with more powers and abilities.

Goku would body them cats with one finger like he did when Trunks was hitting him with that sword.

 

[jdashmaj]

Show me these people fighting, don't spout to me about creating dimensions. I want purely their fighting feats. Nothing else. I posted plenty of arguments in favor of goku

Goku lost to Radditz
Goku lost to Vegeta the 1st time
Goku lost to a weaker Captain Ginyuu because he's an idiot
Goku fought on par with Perfect Cell wasn't stronger than him and couldn't finish him off
It an opponent has a physical advantage over him he can't be them
stop acting like Goku is god

this is Surfer being merciful

Wolverines indestructible adamantium being ripped out of his skin and not even fazing Surfer

only thing you've posted is Goku flying with 40tons that's like a piece of paper to the Hulk and Cell bragging about being able to destroy galaxies but he couldn't beat a one armed 11yr old .

 

[Green negs and spam]

I do agree that Goku would take on a good portion of Marvel's earth based characters and win, but like people have said once Franklyn comes into play it's over since all he needs is a thought to be able to do anything.