SSJ 3 Goku vs The Whole Marvel on Earth

[Jplaya2023]

Come on breh. Cell was bullshyttin. Everywhere on the internet has debated this shyt. Everywhere with intelligence says Cell was bullshytting. The only way dude was taking out the Solar System was causing the Sun to supernova. If Cell could have taken out the Solar System that means Gohan had to have sent back equal power to compete with his attack, right? Their attacks collided and only left a small crater from the impact. That is not Solar System destroying power. Cell has to blow the Sun up to blow up the Solar System. He can't do it any other way. I can't believe people in 2012 still overhype DBZ characters. Go read Saint Seiya or b*stard or Jo Jos or something else with actual strong people. Hell specific people in Bleach and Naruto could beat Goku.

Who know's if cell was bluffing but he did just a massive zenkai and inherited goku's strengths and powers. It basically comes down to who u believe. Again the DBZ world does not function the same as the world we know so blowing up the solar system might be different in dbz than marvel.

You also have to remember gohan was holding back on his attack from cell because he was afraid he was going to destroy the planet as stated here.

Dragon Ball Online Manga · SPECTRUM NEXUS

 

[jdashmaj]

Phoenix was flying from solar system to solar system in an instant without having to read some power level sooo who's really faster

also she was destroy galaxies with ease smh Goku,Cell,Buu whoever pale in comparison to Marvel's top tier

 

[Jplaya2023]

And let's be real...let's run through everyone of note goku defeated

The losers in db
Nappa and vegeta OH WAIT PICCOLO KILLED THEM
Freiza
Cell OH WAIT GOHAN KILLED HIM
The androids OH WAIT VEGETA KILLED THEM
Majin Vegeta OH WAIT HE ACTUALLY LOST TO HIM
Majin Buu OH WAIT VEGETA DEFEATED HIM
Perfect/kid buu
Brolly OH WAIT he needed everyone ELSES power to beat him...and OH WAIT HIS fukkING SON AND TRUNKS killed him TOO
Janemba OH WAIT that was GOGETA

And those guys were simple "I'll punch and throw energy blasts at you" bad guys with no smarts which all marvel badguys have.

Doom could outsmart goku into killing himself lol

da fukk? This entire post is wrong

First of all Vegeta killed nappa and goku spared vegeta's life. Piccolo was killed by nappa.

Vegeta got his ass kicked by 18 and cell absorbed both 17 and 18

Majin Vegeta was a stalemate until vegeta blindsided him when they decided to go fight buu

Goku defeated kidd buu with the spirit bomb.

Brolly is non canon so is Janemba.

I won't let u get away with just making shyt up.

Here is the manga, please read

SPECTRUM NEXUS · Manga Scans · Dragon Ball

 

[Mr Bubbles]

Who know's if cell was bluffing but he did just a massive zenkai and inherited goku's strengths and powers. It basically comes down to who u believe. Again the DBZ world does not function the same as the world we know so blowing up the solar system might be different in dbz than marvel.

You also have to remember gohan was holding back on his attack from cell because he was afraid he was going to destroy the planet as stated here.

Dragon Ball Online Manga · SPECTRUM NEXUS

Goku told him not to hold back and he released his full power. How could he hold back if Cell's attack was strong enough to blow away a Solar System? That shyt wouldn't make sense for a weaker attack to counter it. In DB force has to be equal or greater to stand up to attacks. There are no elements to throw shyt out of wack like weak water beating strong fire. Gohan had to have put out an attack strong enough to counter Cell's "Solar System" destroying attack. Cell was either bullshytting or planning to blow up the Sun. No other way possible.
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[Jplaya2023]

Phoenix was flying from solar system to solar system in an instant without having to read some power level sooo who's really faster

also she was destroy galaxies with ease smh Goku,Cell,Buu whoever pale in comparison to Marvel's top tier

Again travel (linear) speed is not fighting speed.

Show me phoenix fighting someone at light speed or faster.

watching these clips

phoenix does not impress me

X-Men TAS Season 3 Episode 7-(Phoenix Saga 5)Child of Light Part 1 - YouTube

X-Men TAS Season 3 Episode 7-(Phoenix Saga 5)Child of Light Part 2 - YouTube

 

[Jplaya2023]

Goku told him not to hold back and he released his full power. How could he hold back if Cell's attack was strong enough to blow away a Solar System? That shyt wouldn't make sense for a weaker attack to counter it. In DB force has to be equal or greater to stand up to attacks. There are no elements to throw shyt out of wack like weak water beating strong fire. Gohan had to have put out an attack strong enough to counter Cell's "Solar System" destroying attack. Cell was either bullshytting or planning to blow up the Sun. No other way possible.
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cell was holding back as well. He said farewell then vegeta caught him off guard and gohan attacked him

 

[jdashmaj]

Come on breh. Cell was bullshyttin. Everywhere on the internet has debated this shyt. Everywhere with intelligence says Cell was bullshytting. The only way dude was taking out the Solar System was causing the Sun to supernova. If Cell could have taken out the Solar System that means Gohan had to have sent back equal power to compete with his attack, right? Their attacks collided and only left a small crater from the impact. That is not Solar System destroying power. Cell has to blow the Sun up to blow up the Solar System. He can't do it any other way. I can't believe people in 2012 still overhype DBZ characters. Go read Saint Seiya or b*stard or Jo Jos or something else with actual strong people. Hell specific people in Bleach and Naruto could beat Goku.

Goku's power had been overrated in this thread but this is too far Goku could wipe out everyone in Naruto and Bleach combined at once, being as dumb as he is he might get caught in genjutsu or maybe Aizen's shikai but he could kill them well before any of them attack. Stick to Marvel cause he'd run through those dudes.

 

[Mr Bubbles]

cell was holding back as well. He said farewell then vegeta caught him off guard and gohan attacked him

You aren't understanding me.

Cell said his blast could blow up the Solar System.

Gohan launched a blast back at him.

Those blasts have to be around equal for Gohan to be able to hold up

Those blasts collided and only caused a small crater. They didn't destroy a Solar System or anything really.

Gohan didn't want to use power that would damage the Earth meaning his blast obviously wasn't strong enough to blow up a Solar System but it still held up with Cell's. Based on that evidence Cell's blast could not destroy a Solar System alone.

Where does the Solar System destroying come in? Explain it to me or drop it.

 

[Mr Bubbles]

Goku's power had been overrated in this thread but this is too far Goku could wipe out everyone in Naruto and Bleach combined at once, being as dumb as he is he might get caught in genjutsu or maybe Aizen's shikai but he could kill them well before any of them attack. Stick to Marvel cause he'd run through those dudes.

Barrigan ages his ass to death and Susanoo's sword seals his ass. Like I said. Dude is strong but abilities like that say fukk strength and have special properties. He would get caught in a Genjutsu quickly too since he always looks his opponent in the eye. Zanpakuto cut the soul anyway. They bypass his bulk.

 

[StatUS]

It's looking like The Arcadium needs a battle subforum

 

[calh45]

Franklin Richards >>>>>>>>>> *


He controls reality. Basically his powers are equal to the writer of the damn comic he's in OR the infinity gaunlet. Take your pick.

The list:
He's immortal.
He created a universe just because AS A KID.
He fixed Ben after he was possessed in Fear Itself AS A KID.
Eternity and the Celestials admitted he was on their level AS A KID.
He brought a Galactus' dead corpse back to life under the tuteluge of his future self.

As a kid he would turn Goku inside out and backwards without a second thought. He's one of the most powerful things in the Marvel Universe.

DBZ lost.

 

[jdashmaj]

Again travel (linear) speed is not fighting speed.

Show me phoenix fighting someone at light speed or faster.

watching these clips

phoenix does not impress me

X-Men TAS Season 3 Episode 7-(Phoenix Saga 5)Child of Light Part 1 - YouTube

X-Men TAS Season 3 Episode 7-(Phoenix Saga 5)Child of Light Part 2 - YouTube

do you realize how much stronger Phoenix is in the comic than the animated series Phoenix would still kill Goku with 0 problems

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

travel (linear) speed does not equal fighting speed.

Goku travels FTL which is faster than what SS or galactus can muster.

When has SS had fights like i posted with goku vs cell where their fighting at FTL essentially the entire fight.

I'll wait for scans or videos.

You want reaction speed/dexterity?

Surfer traipses every corner of a planet in seconds. That's not linear

Surfer fighting multiple scumbags in space

But hell, even if his reaction speed wasn't good enough (which it is), he doesn't even need to fight Goku straight up.

He can just blast the pajama wearin' fruit...

...While traveling at speeds fast enough to cross lightyears in seconds?

6 trillion miles in SECONDS breh...whether that kind of speed fully translates to Surfer using them hands or not, Goku ain't gonna be able to hit him, period.

 

[Jplaya2023]

You aren't understanding me.

Cell said his blast could blow up the Solar System.

Gohan launched a blast back at him.

Those blasts have to be around equal for Gohan to be able to hold up

Those blasts collided and only caused a small crater. They didn't destroy a Solar System or anything really.

Gohan didn't want to use power that would damage the Earth meaning his blast obviously wasn't strong enough to blow up a Solar System but it still held up with Cell's. Based on that evidence Cell's blast could not destroy a Solar System alone.

Where does the Solar System destroying come in? Explain it to me or drop it.

Again in DBZ ki blast are concentrated so that they don't destroy earth instantly. I can point to many examples of this if you want, but you seem to be familiar with DBZ.

Again Cell received a zenaki and powered up to almost equal with SSJ2 gohan, so since gohan was stronger he could also blow up the solar system if he pleased as well.

Gohan held back quite a bit because he lost roughly half his strength and cell didn't go full power from the start so it was equal, again that evidence get's thrown out the window. Cell was ready to finish it but vegeta interrupted the blast and gohan unleashed full power all towards cell.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Barrigan ages his ass to death and Susanoo's sword seals his ass. Like I said. Dude is strong but abilities like that say fukk strength and have special properties. He would get caught in a Genjutsu quickly too since he always looks his opponent in the eye. Zanpakuto cut the soul anyway. They bypass his bulk.

Susano isn't sealing goku, and Itachi is the king of naruto but he's out of his league with DBZ. Goku would never be caught in it