(spinoff) What is up with the stigma of DC comics being "boring?"

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

maybe the movies made them "grittier"?
I can't see dc being gangster at all sorry.. when I was in school the rich white kids use to collect all the dc books.. kept them in perfect condition, wouldn't let u read em much less trade
marvel books was used up as fukk u could take one look and know they been read by a few people before u got hold to it.. made the story that more intriguing.

Youre awful

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Truthfully, when I got back into comics when Infinite Crisis started I found Marvel boring in comparison.

Even when the new 52 started I was still finding Marvel's material bland in comparison.
This is coming from someone who grew up mainly following Marvel.

Now I find have a hard time going back to superhero comics (not the classics, however)

 

[MartyMcFly]

maybe I gave the wrong impression bc marvel didn't have many black characters either.. I think it just goes back to my days as a kid.. we just wanted to say superman was a ho or batman was lazy with his magic utility belt.. marvel meant u were against the status quo, u was part of the underground movement... greasers vs socials if u will
marvel gang for life lol

Yeah I feel you. The marvel characters had it rougher. But again it depends on who you're reading. Iron man wasn't popular when we were kids but couldn't you say the same thing about him that you said about batman? They're both rich as hell and use that money to help them fight. Reed Richards is a genius and captain America is the definition of goodie two shoes

 

[cheek100]

Youre awful

why u say that kid?

 

[cheek100]

Yeah I feel you. The marvel characters had it rougher. But again it depends on who you're reading. Iron man wasn't popular when we were kids but couldn't you say the same thing about him that you said about batman? They're both rich as hell and use that money to help them fight. Reed Richards is a genius and captain America is the definition of goodie two shoes

I'll be honest batman was my dude on the low.. Bruce had that mysterious swag just like Starks.
the thing that made them different was Starks went against the grain and did shyt his way when Bruce seemed to always know somebody like the commissioner or the mayor.. somebody that helped him out the blue. Starks would get hurt like a human, get his ass in a real life jam, get held hostage or something.. Bruce never had those problems, cat was always landing on his feet miraculously.

edit captain America wasn't shyt lol

 

[Wargames]

aw man

they tried to reboot Static...shyt was and I was pretty disappointed

Stormwatch lasted for a bit but I couldn't get into it

But yeah, creatively Marvel is killing DC at the moment. Remember I, Vampire? Like you said, that book would've been PERFECT for Vertigo but it got cancelled.

At this point I'm hoping Future's End or whatever undoes the reboot because it's just been a failed experiment so far

I liked what McDuffie was trying to do by just racial integrating teams. Static and Blue beetle should of been on the teen Titan book instead of being expected to hold a title down on their own. Stormwatch was just nonsense man, it was like a neutered authority which sucked because I always thought the original stormwatch was a real quality book that never got shine because the team leader was black (who doesn't even exist in the new DC) and they also managed to shyt on Authority's characters tin the reboot as well.

Also talking about I.Vampire. All the surviving supernatural books have been made into JLA Dark..... whose main character is John "flight before fight" Constantine on a superhero team.... shyt is just disrespectful to the work writers did before in making that character.

I don't think they can go back 100% but yeah DC needs to reboot this reboot it's trash.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'll be honest batman was my dude on the low.. Bruce had that mysterious swag just like Starks.
the thing that made them different was Starks went against the grain and did shyt his way when Bruce seemed to always know somebody like the commissioner or the mayor.. somebody that helped him out the blue. Starks would get hurt like a human, get his ass in a real life jam, get held hostage or something.. Bruce never had those problems, cat was always landing on his feet miraculously.

edit captain America wasn't shyt lol

Cause Starks was an alcoholic and reckless too. Bruce is trained breh. He's prepared for every eventuality. Tony is fly by the seat of his pants and I appreciate both approaches because I employ both in my life but most of Tony's wounds are self inflicted. Bruce has inner conflict too and most comics and the animated series specifically show him going against the grain and against the system. Gordon is on his side and a few cops but for the most part, they don't like him. He's a vigilante doing a job that no one asked him to do and he's making the cops look inept at every turn. And unlike Tony, he's suffered great losses in his personal life whether it be his parents or Jason Todd as Robin, or the fact that he refuses to have a personal life because of his devotion to the mission. Tony doesn't have that issue

 

[Wild self]

Cause Starks was an alcoholic and reckless too. Bruce is trained breh. He's prepared for every eventuality. Tony is fly by the seat of his pants and I appreciate both approaches because I employ both in my life but most of Tony's wounds are self inflicted. Bruce has inner conflict too and most comics and the animated series specifically show him going against the grain and against the system. Gordon is on his side and a few cops but for the most part, they don't like him. He's a vigilante doing a job that no one asked him to do and he's making the cops look inept at every turn. And unlike Tony, he's suffered great losses in his personal life whether it be his parents or Jason Todd as Robin, or the fact that he refuses to have a personal life because of his devotion to the mission. Tony doesn't have that issue

You forgot the young gawd Damian Wayne losing his life to be like his dad

Or dikk Grayson's identity being exposed and forced to be a secret agent, never living a normal life again.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Not to mention Tony is a member/leader of a government sanctioned group of heroes who have complete autonomy to do what they see fit in order to keep the country safe. And he was also at the forefront of working with the government to get all superheroes registered with the government and hustled my boy spidey into revealing his true identity

 

[Wild self]

Not to mention Tony is a member/leader of a government sanctioned group of heroes who have complete autonomy to do what they see fit in order to keep the country safe. And he was also at the forefront of working with the government to get all superheroes registered with the government and hustled my boy spidey into revealing his true identity

What Stark did was some scumbag shyt.

 

[cheek100]

Cause Starks was an alcoholic and reckless too. Bruce is trained breh. He's prepared for every eventuality. Tony is fly by the seat of his pants and I appreciate both approaches because I employ both in my life but most of Tony's wounds are self inflicted. Bruce has inner conflict too and most comics and the animated series specifically show him going against the grain and against the system. Gordon is on his side and a few cops but for the most part, they don't like him. He's a vigilante doing a job that no one asked him to do and he's making the cops look inept at every turn. And unlike Tony, he's suffered great losses in his personal life whether it be his parents or Jason Todd as Robin, or the fact that he refuses to have a personal life because of his devotion to the mission. Tony doesn't have that issue

Bruce never gets hurt tho. he's always got the right answer.. he's always got help
they both have money but one of them mingles with the 1% and the other fukks with regular cats
Bruce had a fumbling sidekick that ruined most of his story lines
Starks had a cute broad that always had his back?? even if he fukked with other hoes
Starks was actually a genius (flawed yes)

 

[MartyMcFly]

Bruce never gets hurt tho. he's always got the right answer.. he's always got help
they both have money but one of them mingles with the 1% and the other fukks with regular cats
Bruce had a fumbling sidekick that ruined most of his story lines
Starks had a cute broad that always had his back?? even if he fukked with other hoes
Starks was actually a genius (flawed yes)

Bruce does get hurt breh when he's done right. Some comic writers don't handle that right but Alfred is his doctor man lol he stitches him up whenever he needs it and Bruce does suffer emotional pain probably more than physical pain. And when done right, Robin is not fumbling. He's needed and an important member of the squad. Bruce only mingles with the 1% to keep up appearances but he'd much rather hang with just normal regular people which is pretty clear in anything you read or watch. He doesn't fit in with that crowd whereas Tony really does. Bruce puts on a facade to fit in, Tony is that. Tony likes to be the center of attention and flaunt his money and hang with people who have as much as he does or more but Bruce would rather be out fighting crime and stopping scumbags on the street..and again, Tony is a member of a large group of superheroes sanctioned by the government to do whatever they want whenever they want to do it and he's led the charge on superheroes going legitimate mostly for his own profit not because he thought it was the right thing to do

 

[cheek100]

Bruce does get hurt breh when he's done right. Some comic writers don't handle that right but Alfred is his doctor man lol he stitches him up whenever he needs it and Bruce does suffer emotional pain probably more than physical pain. And when done right, Robin is not fumbling. He's needed and an important member of the squad. Bruce only mingles with the 1% to keep up appearances but he'd much rather hang with just normal regular people which is pretty clear in anything you read or watch. He doesn't fit in with that crowd whereas Tony really does. Bruce puts on a facade to fit in, Tony is that. Tony likes to be the center of attention and flaunt his money and hang with people who have as much as he does or more but Bruce would rather be out fighting crime and stopping scumbags on the street..and again, Tony is a member of a large group of superheroes sanctioned by the government to do whatever they want whenever they want to do it and he's led the charge on superheroes going legitimate mostly for his own profit not because he thought it was the right thing to do

off topic but didn't Starks have hulk locked up at shield, then make hulk fight Thor?

 

[MartyMcFly]

off topic but didn't Starks have hulk locked up at shield, then make hulk fight Thor?

I'm not sure breh I'm sure someone else could answer it but it wouldn't surprise me. Tony has done some foul stuff when it comes to Shield and abusing his power. I'm glad he came back from it

 

[Jello Biafra]

Lemme ask this:

Who in here is actively reading DC/Marvel comics today?

Like actual issue to issue reading?

I still read DC/Marvel stuff on the reg.