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you know what I mean.

by the time "danger" dropped, the album, and it became apparent that he was done with no limit.

Breh, Mystikal had an audience before he got with No Limit. It wasn't a coincidence that he brought Precise back on board after he left No Limit. That was him connecting with day one fans from his local days through the Mind of Mystikal era of his career. Point being, he had fans that jumped on the bandwagon during the No Limit era that weren't necessarily his core audience as much as they were No Limit fans.
 

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I also really liked the beat he gave Westside Connection (I think it was a Mack 10 song). Outside of that, I don't really care for Manny Fresh's beats at all. :yeshrug:


you just don't like the south stuff.

but yea, fresh killed the whole mack 10 album.

dre was supposed to produce half of it, but knew he was gonna get styled on, so he just produced that weak ass single instead.
 

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Breh, Mystikal had an audience before he got with No Limit. It wasn't a coincidence that he brought Precise back on board after he left No Limit. That was him connecting with day one fans from his local days through the Mind of Mystikal era of his career. Point being, he had fans that jumped on the bandwagon during the No Limit era that weren't necessarily his core audience as much as they were No Limit fans.


no chit.

I was a mystikal fan before I even knew what no limit was.

"lets get ready" doesn't hold a candle to "mind of mystikal".

and those neptunes singles alone were a turnoff before you even cop the album.
 

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you just don't like the south stuff.

but yea, fresh killed the whole mack 10 album.

dre was supposed to produce half of it, but knew he was gonna get styled on, so he just produced that weak ass single instead.

This is lies. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Dre has never done half of an album that wasn't Snoop, himself, or an Aftermath/Shady artist. This is the article from Mack 10's signing with CMR where the album is talked about:

One way that Cash Money feels that Mack 10 can win is by combining the revved-up sounds of the South with the gangsterfied sounds of the West. With Dr. Dre producing some of Bang or Ball, the album will be the first modern-era Cash Money Records release that was not entirely produced by Mannie Fresh. Baby feels that having those two producers helm the album will only make it stronger.

Mack 10 Becomes A Cash Money Priority

Dr. Dre was only producing some of the album with the rest produced by Mannie Fresh.
 

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no chit.

I was a mystikal fan before I even knew what no limit was.

"lets get ready" doesn't hold a candle to "mind of mystikal".

and those neptunes singles alone were a turnoff before you even cop the album.

And again, you're wrong. Those Neptunes singles were singles that brought Mystikal new fans. It also brought him fans that were on the fence when he was signed to No Limit. He didn't necessarily change his style to adapt to The Neptunes. What they did was make that whole James Brown/New Orleans Jazz side of his style more prominent, which wasn't showcased when he was on No Limit and even before No Limit.

So while that may have been a turn off to you and people that wanted more of the rowdy Mystikal, it was a welcomed change of pace for some Mystikal fans and something that was new to people who weren't fans or were introduced to Mystikal via "Shake It Fast" and "Danger".
 

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The album didn't flop in 1999 and that is the point. "Hot Boyz" had already shot to #1 on the rap charts in December and spent 16 weeks there.


the year is already over in December. and the album sales didn't go up until 2000.
album flopped in '99 bro. LET IT GO.

P.S. I see you have Q-Tip ranked. he flopped too.
 

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October 1999 is still 1999. It went #1 on the Rap charts by December and stayed there for weeks.


so it didn't really take off until December.

hence, the reason why its morseo seen as a 2000 single.
2000 is also when the album sales went up.
 

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the year is already over in December. and the album sales didn't go up until 2000.
album flopped in '99 bro. LET IT GO.

P.S. I see you have Q-Tip ranked. he flopped too.

Breh, the year ends at the END of December. This song was already popular and sales were already going up.
 

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"in the way" in terms of placements.

nothing more.

:camby:. You just clowned on the placements she was getting, now you're saying that's why she was in the way. Posters will say anything when they have no argument even kill the previous one.
 

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This is lies. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Dre has never done half of an album that wasn't Snoop, himself, or an Aftermath/Shady artist. This is the article from Mack 10's signing with CMR where the album is talked about:



Mack 10 Becomes A Cash Money Priority

Dr. Dre was only producing some of the album with the rest produced by Mannie Fresh.



NO.

dre was supposed to do half the album.

it was well-known.
 

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:camby:. You just clowned on the placements she was getting, now you're saying that's why she was in the way. Posters will say anything when they have no argument even kill the previous one.


not sure what youre talking about here.
 

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so it didn't really take off until December.

hence, the reason why its morseo seen as a 2000 single.
2000 is also when the album sales went up.

Breh, it you don't just magically go #1. It was already a song that had blown up. The fact that it peaked within weeks of release speaks volumes. It means it had already blown up and the album sales were going up as well. It was platinum by February.
 

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Breh, the year ends at the END of December. This song was already popular and sales were already going up.


and the album still didn't go platinum til February.

listen man, we already told you what it was.

why are you so adamant about it.
at least it eventually did its numbers. who cares if it wasn't in '99??

you must be a fan of "shes a b*ch" and "all up in my grill".:mjlol:


Breh, it you don't just magically go #1. It was already a song that had blown up. The fact that it peaked within weeks of release speaks volumes. It means it had already blown up and the album sales were going up as well. It was platinum by February.


singles sales moved quicker.
 

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And again, you're wrong. Those Neptunes singles were singles that brought Mystikal new fans. It also brought him fans that were on the fence when he was signed to No Limit. He didn't necessarily change his style to adapt to The Neptunes. What they did was make that whole James Brown/New Orleans Jazz side of his style more prominent, which wasn't showcased when he was on No Limit and even before No Limit.

So while that may have been a turn off to you and people that wanted more of the rowdy Mystikal, it was a welcomed change of pace for some Mystikal fans and something that was new to people who weren't fans or were introduced to Mystikal via "Shake It Fast" and "Danger".


fairweather fans who will jump off the bandwagon quick, as soon as it hits a couple bumps.

the difference between that and a core audience.
 
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