**SPIN**The official Bizarre Qur'an and Hadith Stories Thread

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"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' "

(The Noble Quran, 3:64) Lets be pals everybody and hate Obama toghether :lupe:
 

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Aisha's dislike for Muhammad

Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away for I disliked to face him."
Sahih Bukhari 1:9:490

So what are you doing? Google searching for lil talking points or something? lol, You just look like an idiot when you take things out of historical context or paint half pictures out of ignorance. These things actually happened in history, unlike many of the things in the European altered versions of the Bible you swear by.

The reason the quoted above was put in the Qur'an along with other things like it,
(such as when She followed him to the prayer site, or when they would argue or disagree)... was to show that they had a normal relationship. Not a relationship where he let his chick get out of line- but also not a relationship to where she couldn't speak her mind and state her opinion. The reason it was significant because as far as they knew women weren't allowed to really have opinions or speak their mind before that. If a husband died they couldn't even received his property most of the time. Islam changed all that, because a righteous society is a society in which women have certain freedoms without disrespecting themselves. She might have been his favorite wife but that doesn't mean he liked her at all times, and she didn't like him at all times..

But you don't care about the truth youre on a smear campaign. You're trolling and representing Christianity perfectly i guess.


Did you know that pre islam Muhammad was the most trusted and respected man in his community due to his honesty in dealing with traders and businessman? Did you know he first married a 40 year old when he was in his 20's and stayed with her until she died? Did you know that he denied marring Aisha, until her own father talked him into it... instead he married another woman who was older. Multiple communities were happy to be united through his marriage to Aisha, and at first that was the point of the marriage until they fell in love. Plus she was a virgin - which was considered a good thing.

Did you know that pre Islam it was legal all around the world to force young girls and women into marriage... until Muhammad stated from Allah via quran, "it is for not legal for you to inherit women against their will. And don't make it difficult for them so you can take from what you have given them (marriage dowry) unless they commit open immorality." Did you know the Aisha / Muhammad story was talked about so much because it's a story of how to love and take care of a woman... Muhammad took care of her, she held him down... and he even died with his head in her lap. Basically strong relationships make strong communities and woman should stay down for their husbands no matter what is the point. Your mind seems to be stuck on perversions.
 

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Don't know too much about Islam, but wasn't Muhammad supposedly under the control of Satan for a period of time while he was writing the Quran?
 

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Bukhari,Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

“Prophet was given the strength (sexual) of thirty men”.

Apostle could make love (continuously) to all his wives (9 to 11) in one night.

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number. Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)."

Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 6:

The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night



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Don't know too much about Islam, but wasn't Muhammad supposedly under the control of Satan for a period of time while he was writing the Quran?

That is correct but the Muslims quickly rewrote history and it belongs to a hadith they don't take serious, for that very reason.

Muhammad had to bring in several pagan wealthy people into the religion on its onset, and they weren't having any of that shyt he was trying to sell, so he essentially had people re-write somethings, including polytheism, to attract them.


It's why Salman Rushdie has a bounty on his head. He pointed this out to a lot of people, and sourced it properly.
 

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That's a central belief in Islam... the Prophet is a Man like any other.

When I meant he was a man like any other I mean he couldn't have had a direct link of communication through Gabriel/ to God.

Adherence to any belief system, whether its religion, economic, agnoticism, or atheism requires faith in the belief system, and to a certain extent suspension of reality.


Suspension of reality is where my issue is when it comes to these things. I wouldn't even mind it, except that suspension of relativity is not compatible with dealing within reality, especially in terms of governance, laws, morality, etc..

I think if I'm reading your post your questioning what extent prophets are fallible. This is where the suspension of reality comes into effect. In the Catholic bible, or the Apochrypha, there's storeis of Daniel talking to a dragon. God supposedely told Abraham to kill his child, and he was more that ready to do so. If someone today killed their child because they told the prosecutor god told them to do so, we'd think they were crazy.

Yes, which is exactly my point above. But why do we call them crazy? Shouldn't we suspend reality and believe them?

Solomon, or his son i believe fell in love with a woman, and had her husband sent to the front lines of a war so he could be killed, and have her for his self. Catholics argue about if the Pope is infailable or not. To answer your question, I believe everyone is failable. I admit if god told a grown man that he could marry a child is disconcerting. Its one of the biggest criticisms of Islam. Which is why I decided to do some elementary research, and it turns out the average age of consent just 130 years ago was around 10 years old. Its easy to just stop there and argue cultural relativism for the age of consent.


You won't get the argument for me. I understand fully well how things operated, even decades ago when it came to women being given away to marriage at early ages. Hell, it still happens.

My only issue is from a philosophical/theological perspective about God and what he/she/it/they/we chose to reveal to supposed prophets.
 

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When I meant he was a man like any other I mean he couldn't have had a direct link of communication through Gabriel/ to God.




Suspension of reality is where my issue is when it comes to these things. I wouldn't even mind it, except that suspension of relativity is not compatible with dealing within reality, especially in terms of governance, laws, morality, etc..



Yes, which is exactly my point above. But why do we call them crazy? Shouldn't we suspend reality and believe them?




You won't get the argument for me. I understand fully well how things operated, even decades ago when it came to women being given away to marriage at early ages. Hell, it still happens.

My only issue is from a philosophical/theological perspective about God and what he/she/it/they/we chose to reveal to supposed prophets.

Can you Muslims answer this man?
 

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Bukhari,Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

“Prophet was given the strength (sexual) of thirty men”.

Apostle could make love (continuously) to all his wives (9 to 11) in one night.

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number. Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)."

Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 6:

The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night



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