It's not the same because we are talking about something that can't be proved or disproved. Such is the nature of the spiritual.
So don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
You don't get to take it as a GIVEN, then when asked to show and prove what you're saying as legitimate, you run back to "well I can't show you etc..."
Thats moving the goal posts.
You have no problem demonstrating anything else you subscribe to.
You're better just saying you WANT it to be there, rather than it just being there.
if you don't want to get into this problem, stop speaking on things you don't want to confront.
Science can't prove that everyone has a spirit or soul any more than the Bible explains the phenomenon of Event Horizon....but there's just a consensus.
Yet again, more evasion.
don't speak on shyt if you can't speak on it.
Period.
Science can't prove it because...there is no evidence on the matter.
(as someone who has an academic background in neuroscience) there isn't much evidence to suggest that there IS a "soul/spirit" but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
It just means that there is no way you can take a claim on the issue.
Just say "I don't know"
You can't just presuppose the conclusion and then wait for the evidence.
Religions are just big consensus, however, asking someone do they believe in God is not the same as "what religion are you"
1. The number of people that subscribe to a belief says nothing about the legitimacy of that belief or the validity of what they assert.
2. Yes, I have no problem combining the 'god' they believe in with their religious affiliations because religions make assertions about the god they believe in so to some degree, knowing the religion you VOLUNTARILY submit to, says a lot about what god you subscribe to.
All theists even within the same religion do not feel the same about God.
Too bad. Don't VOLUNTARILY subscribe to a religion with its own rules if you're just going to bytch about the very tenets you CHOSE to subscribe to.
I feel many Atheists have an issue with Religion and not God.
I have a problem with both.
1. Religions make objective assertions that don't offer any leeway about what they proclaim and infer infallibility.
2. Every god concept that has ever been asserted fails under its own weight of irrationality.
And even further Athiests should learn to separate bigots who use the texts as weapons or tools for an agenda and people who feel that the universe is divine in its origins.
FALSE.
I'm tired of religious moderates like yourself who think you're being "better" than bigots in your own religion.
Bigots are people you're just scared to associate with, yet you VOLUNTARILY follow the same religion that informs the bigot's opinions.
if you ask me, the hateful religious people are the honest religious people. Being religious doesn't make you good or say anything about your morality. It only says how religious you are. PERIOD.
If you want to ignore all the bad shyt the bible asks you to do, then don't tell me how "religious" you are when you effectively ignore all the shyt you know that is contemporarily impractical for you to pursue. You're an opportunist that wants the benefits of the association without the effort required to actually submit to what you VOLUNTARILY align yourself with.
Philosophically, I support the christian who wants to stone women for having premarital sex than the one who thinks the bible is clearly wrong on some aspects. At least the first person really believes it enough to see it through. You, on the other hand, just like to pick and choose because its too uncomfortable for you admit you don't take the bible seriously.