Spin//Do you believe in God?

This dude god real?

  • Nah

    Votes: 46 46.0%
  • Yea

    Votes: 54 54.0%

  • Total voters
    100
  • Poll closed .

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you can literally assert that phrase into anything..:yawn: i gave you 6 rational reasons to why people would think that way. :yeshrug:
You gave reasons for god existence being inconclusive. Your confusing yourself into thinking those are any reasons that would would push someone to believe that god doesn't exist.
 

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My case is that there are reasons for god existence being inconclusive but none for god not existing.

Okay, so what are the reasons for any mythical being not existing. Say ... Santa Clause. We mentioned him earlier. What reasons do you have to not believe he exists?

Where did I say that there are reasons for god existing? Where did i say that god existing is the rational choice?

Well, you are a theist, so I assumed you believed in god for a reason. Not because it was not disproven in your opinion.
 

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Okay, so what are the reasons for any mythical being not existing. Say ... Santa Clause. We mentioned him earlier. What reasons do you have to not believe he exists?

Well, you are a theist, so I assumed you believed in god for a reason. Not because it was not disproven in your opinion.
Which definition of Santa Claus are we talking about and I will name them.

The idea of a god is just that an idea. Its forming and doesn't interfere with science whatsoever.

My beleif in god is a beleif. No more no less. A simple guess as to what is out there. Your atheism is just that a guess the only difference is that you are convinced that its rational when all it is is a guess.
 

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Which definition of Santa Claus are we talking about and I will name them.

Well, you can use any fairy tale that you reject outright. I have to define Santa for you now? :leostare:

My beleif in god is a beleif. No more no less. A simple guess as to what is out there. Your atheism is just that tool a guess the only difference is that you are convince that its rational when all it is is a guess.

It's spelled B-E-L-I-E-F. Belief.

And no... my atheism is a response to the guesses from you and billions of others. I have not been convinced that god exists is a true claim. It's no guess. It's saying, I don't know but YOUR guess is incredibly unfounded. I don't claim that a god does not or cannot exist. Just that there is no guess that it does.
 

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Well, you can use any fairy tale that you reject outright. I have to define Santa for you now? :leostare:

It's spelt B-E-L-I-E-F. Belief.

And no... my atheism is a response to the guesses from you and billions of others. I have not been convinced that god exists is a true claim. It's no guess. It's saying, I don't know but YOUR guess is incredibly unfounded. I don't claim that a god does not or cannot exist. Just that there is no guess that it does.
Wanna compare my belief in god to Santa clause? Then compare how much my belief in god goes against science compared to Santa clause and fall flat on your ass.

I know how to spell belief. I'm typing on a ipad so stop bytching.

Atheism is the guess that god does not exist. Claim or no claim atheism is still a guess and by being an atheist its your guess.

Atheism isn't a rational guess either because there are no reasons for god not existing as you've failed to provide reasons in this very topic.

The only one that doesn't guess is an agnostic.
 

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Wanna compare my belief in god to Santa clause? Then compare how much my belief in god goes against science compared to Santa clause and fall flat on your ass.

I know how to spell belief. I'm typing on a ipad so stop bytching.

Atheism is the guess that god does not exist. Claim or no claim atheism is still a guess and by being an atheist its your guess.

The only one that doesn't guess is an agnostic.

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Again, I've explained this to you. Agnosticism and Atheism aren't mutually exclusive.

And just answer the question. What are the reasons for not believing in Santa.
 

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Again, I've explained this to you. Agnosticism and Atheism aren't mutually exclusive.

And just answer the question. What are the reasons for not believing in Santa.
Unless your an agnostic atheist you are exclusive to atheism only. Plus even if your an agnostic atheist god not existing is still your guess.

Want me to answer the question? Because the details involved with Santa clause goes against science.
 

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But there's no evidence saying he doesn't exist either :patrice:
I mean, if you go with that logic then you can just say that about almost anything. I could say there is a 7 foot invisible inter-dimensional being floating around your room and you couldn't disprove that. Let alone everyone having different ideas and definitions for what God is, it's essentially a definitionless term :manny:
 

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You can't answer if god is real or not.

No one knows.

However, based on the evidence asserted by believers, I have no reason to submit to the assertion that one does exist.

They have yet to make a case that stands up to criticism.
 

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Yes, but what other things do you believe in thats existence is inconclusive?



No. It's not as reasonable to believe in miracles as it is to disbelieve in them. It's not as reasonable to believe in ghosts as it is not to believe in them. It's not as reasonable to believe in Big Foot as it is not to believe in it.

You don't need more justification. If a position isn't justified, then it doesn't make sense to think that it's true.

Theism and atheism aren't equally valid positions.



Mmmm... well, yes and no. One, the idea of an all-powerful, all-knowing, perfectly moral entity might be contradictory in and of itself. And if Santa and the Easter Bunny existed, they'd at least be physical entities that use magic in the real world. A higher power/ God on the other hand is non-physical, and supposedly exists in another realm outside our own. Science doesn't work under the assumption that such a realm exists. In this sense, Santa is somewhat more plausible, as he is at least a physical being.

They are, you're just confused about the word atheism

Atheism is the lack of belief. You either believe a claim or you do not believe a claim

Agnosticism is the lack of knowledge. You either know or you do not know (gnostic)

I do not KNOW if a god exists, but based on the evidence asserted, I do not believe one does.

THERE COULD be one, but there is no reason to believe that. Yet.
 
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