Spike Lee - She's Got To Have It (Netflix Series)

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I'm tryna get into this because of social media bringing it to my awareness. But Spike's style is so weird and outdated to me.

I give him props for trying to be unique and be himself but it's just hard for me to get into. Feels very jerky and jumpy.

Only on episode 2 tho.
 
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That Wally Murk joint? I don't think it's a real song. Which is a shame because that song was bumpin'.

Yeah I had a feeling from just searching that it wasn't real but damn it was kinda hard. The music in this show was great, from the song selections and the score was tight.
 
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I’m on episode 9 and this shyt just fell apart to a point where i dont even want a season 2. That gentrification shyt was ridiculous and then she spends the last 5 mins just spinning around after she got accepted into the program lol

Like Spike is all over the damn place with this ish. The lack of cohesion from episode to episode is beyond blatant. Nola has more lives than 10 cats combined into one lion. The excessive bridge burning she does is laughable. Only people more sorry than her is Mars and Da Mayor (who the cops probably killed after arresting him).

Greer just needs to be gay and fukk bytches on occasion. Jamie has plenty going for him even without his wife and kid. Him and Fat Joe can be a bootleg Ghost and Tommy since he was apparently about that life before going corporate. Mars needs his GED and his own place to stay. Sell some of those fukkin Jordans and grow up alresdy. Pitiful Nola seemed like she pitied him. And her dissing him in the cafe by putting her headphones was beyond disrespectful.

And with so many adults (parents, therapist, school principal, landlord) on her side giving her advice and a million breaks, you’d think she’d be more grateful and motivated to get her shyt in order.

And Jamie is the simp of the century for paying her $10k for that “painting”. He’s lucky she gave the $ back. What unknown artist who is selling shyt on her stoop one day and then getting $10k for a painting the next. I know Jamie has paper but he’s basically been paying her for p*ssy and to be around her young energy since it’s a complete contrast to his wife and home life.
 

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You DO KNOW the original is over THIRTY YEARS OLD... this isn't anything brand new. Spike Lee started his entire film career off this. So I doubt the themes and messages back then are any more different than today. Even if you do disagree with them.

I go back with Spike work before She's Gotta Have It, to his first NYU film, Joe's Bed Stuy Barbershop.

I remember Spike receiving tremendous black criticism for the portrayal of Nola Darling in the first film.

He was criticized for promoting black women as the Jezebel, sexual-beast stereotype, and
for including a dismissive view of a rape scene in the film. However, he received a warm reception
for the first film from the Upper West Side white film critics.

Fast-forward 30 years, and black sexual random behavior in the series on the part of both women and men, is being celebrated as some sort of progressive development, contrary to all that we've learned the past three decades about family and community disintegration.

Yup, fight white supremacy with the white man's/woman's sexual revolution values in your art.
 
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Can we talk about how Spike chose to update Nola's love interest 30 years after the movie?

Mars is probably the most similar...the big difference, of course, is that he's Rican. They get more into his background on the show cuz there's more time, but nothing is revealed that seems like it wouldn't fit with the original Mars. Show Mars seems a bit more lame. I don't think they ever showed Show Mars having any other chicks, he seemed all in on Nola. At least OG Mars is shown calling his next chick when Nola blows him off on her bday.

Greer is still a self absorbed model (cool they kept the neatly folding his clothes before jumping into bed sequence), but he added more depth on the show. Show Greer provides a vantage point being a foreign born black man that I don't think would fit with movie Greer, even if he did get more screen time. Movie Greer seemed to just be looking for good arm candy for red carpets, a girlfriend who looked good enough to be with him and smart enough to work impress the room. Show Greer seemed more genuinely into Nola. Also movie Greer, tho a model, was more of a manly man where as TV Greer is way more effeminate.

Jamie is the biggest alteration. Movie Jaime is infatuated with Nola. He treats her right, he's kinda a corny 'sucker for love' type. He's presented as the right choice for Nola, and Nola does end up choosing him, tho it doesn't last long. TV Jamie is more of a sugar daddy. He's a wealthy cheating husband. Although he's painted with some of those same "corny" strokes as movie Jamie, he is shown to have a street background. TV Jamie is also infatuated with Nola, but his wife reveals that infatuation with side pieces is a Jamie character trait, so it's not necessarily about Nola. In the show, Jamie is presented as the only clear cut wrong choice for Nola.

Opal's character is pretty similar (tho older on the show), but the Opal-Nola relationship is changed dramatically. In the movie, Opal is just a good friend. Nola is curious, but she hasn't actually gone there with Opal or any woman. In the show, Opal and Nola have not only smashed, but also tried a relationship. To me, TV Opal is presented as the right choice for Nola. Not just because she shows up after the Thanksgiving dinner, but also Nola's comments in the therapy session. Also, TV Opal is unwilling to deal with Nola's half stepping...just as the right choice in the movie, Greer, was unwilling to put up with Nola's half stepping.


I do find the Latino shift in Mars, the effeminate shift in Greer, the sleaziness shift in Jamie and shift towards lesbianism being the best option interesting. :patrice:
 

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Ugh. The pretentiousness of some of the female characters are intolerable. Who even talks like this? And if they do how the hell do they have friends?

Just watching the first episode and turned it off when she is at the restaurant with her girls.
 

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The Jamie character has to be like 40.

Regarding Mars, Nola seems much more sophisticated and mature than him, I get it, it's her rotation of men, sort of her secret sex life. And men and women all have different and conflicting taste in men, it's just hard to see the attraction. He's for sure the odd man out. But, that dude could never hang in circles with her and her friends, he acts like he's still a teenager.

Let’s keep it real Nola ain’t got her shyt together she a fake lesbian who only keeping a roof over head because she got a sugar daddy, she lacks responsibility and accountability and she shys away from commitment wether it be work related or relationships, not to mention she’s pretentious and looks down on those who she so closely associates with ie mars














I’d still put up with all her bs just o get a whiff of that cat:manny: I’m a nasty nikka what can I say
 

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On episode 5 (Raqueleta Moss is ODing)...

What race is Jamie's wife? She looks like a lightskinned black girl or mixed chick. But she could also be white.
 
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