Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

[Brown_Pride]

it wouldnt be

i mean i read a a post on here that said when the n word was said teh poster was just laughing, white men hurling ****** around is just comedic jest

maybe that's where it's at though?
I was thinking about this today and as fuked up as it may sound perhaps that's where we are as a nation. MAYBE the time to look at that ugly past in any meaningful way is gone?

The people should care are so far removed from it that it's not a serious discussion anymore. Look at a movie like roots. It hit during a time when the civil rights movement was still meaningful. It had substance. There was a desire to get the message out and since it had never really been told as it should people took it and it meant something. White people felt shame, black people felt pride and anger.

You can't do that now. White people don't identify with "massa". You can't have a meaningful discussion with someone over something their ancestors did when they don't identify with them.

I'm not saying it's right, it's clearly not, but honestly do you ever see a meaningful discussion about this part of our history coming about? Fuk no.

I wonder if the ship on this topic hasn't sailed?
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NOTE: This was a thought, i don't agree with the premise nor do i endorse the idea, it's just an observation I had about the state of our country and it's ability to digest the level of shyt slavery put black people through.

 

[Spin]

I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot how it would be. If this was a movie about Jews and the Holocaust and the main character was a Jew who went around going at it with people who were treating them wrong. I wonder how "Hollywood" would view it then.

I bet almost anything a movie like this would not get made.

Did you not see Tarantino's last movie Inglorious b*stards? That's exactly what it was about.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

I wonder if the ship on this topic hasn't sailed?

i think today generation operates under the assumption that slavery was a long time ago and racial relationship in america is much different now then it was during the civil rights movement. the reality of the situation is that the end and of slavery wasn't that long ago. my parents actually met their descendants that were slaves. my great grandparents were the offspring of free slaves and they( atleast my father's grandmother and my mother's grandmother) were still alive when i was born. my father's grandmother died shortly after i was born but my mother's grandmother lived until i was 6 years old. i remember her quite vividly. today's generation aren't going to have any links to the past like that and it's shame really.

 

[Greenstrings]

Did you not see Tarantino's last movie Inglorious b*stards? That's exactly what it was about.

!!!Was just about to say this The irony is too much.

 

[daze23]

today's generation aren't going to have any links to the past like that and it's shame really.

why is that a "shame"

 

[88m3]

why is that a "shame"

 

[Rapmastermind]

why is that a "shame"

That's the point, you can't evolve pass something that's still effecting our People. The biggest issue with Slavery is America just doesn't want to address it, they still want to brush it under the rug cause it happen hundreds of years ago they feel it's over and we should move on. Lincoln freed us and then we had another 100 years of segregation. I was born in 1980 so I'm the 1st post-civil rights generation Black American. My parents grew up in that sh!t, My Grandparents also and my great-grandparents were Slaves.

Same with the Native Americans, America really haven't addressed them either. Jews got reparations, Japanese got reparations. Blacks? Nothing. We actually have Congressmen saying "Get over Slavery". The biggest issue is White America doesn't want to address it. Blacks should NEVER get over or move on from Slavery cause we need to always remember those who gave their lives so we could even sit in a movie theater and watch "Django". It's not weak to "Cling" onto Slavery, it's respect for our ancestors to understand their struggle and sacrifice. To the Jews the saying for the Holocaust is "Never forget". In America for Slavery blacks are always told to "Move On, Get Over It". Not me man, I will never move on, I have to keep those memories and stories in me to keep me grounded of my reality and understand why I'm even in the position to be where I'm at.

That's why it's a shame. We as Blacks should never be disconnected to our history or ancestors. Jews are never told to move on from the Holocaust, it holds them together, it's apart of their moral fabric to never let anything like that happen again. In some parts of America believe it or not, if Slavery could come back it would. It's sad cause the systematic damage from Slavery is still felt.

A lot of us don't know our connections to ancestors cause they've been split apart. For the most part I know my Grand-mothers, Mother, Mother was a slave in North Carolina. A lot of my family still lives down there. My father's grand mother, mother, father was a slave in South Carolina. That's as far back as I know. It's important that Black people not use slavery as a crutch but as a spring board to understand how far we've come and how much further we have to go. Look at Hollywood. We rarely get nominated for awards year in and year out. Look at "Django", 5 Golden Globes, no Blacks Nominated. Slavery for me like I said is a reminder that I take advantage of what my ancestors couldn't.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

why is that a "shame"

if the link isn't visually there then they are blind to the fact just how close slavery is/was in connection to them. it makes it easier to sweep under the rug instead of addressing and acknowledging the mistakes this country has made in regarding race and slavery. imo of course....

 

[Rapmastermind]

People will be very shocked how many famous American Buildings Slaves Built in DC (White House, Capitol), Philly and New York. New York actually have an exhibit in the museum of modern art called "Slavery in New York" it was eye opening cause a lot people think Slavery was only in the south. I went to it back in 2005 and again it was life changing to see how much we help to build the New York we all love today.

History of slavery in New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHP89mLWOY"]MALCOLM X: OUR HISTORY WAS DESTROYED BY SLAVERY - YouTube[/ame]

Malcolm X: Our History was Destroyed by Slavery

 

[daze23]

but I'm sayin, it just seems weird to say that something that's basically inevitable is a "shame"

in general I don't know why people cling on to the past so much. the best you can do is learn from it, but other than that, time only goes in one direction

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

seeing this movie

 

[88m3]

seeing this movie

We're not talking about the movie

 

[Rapmastermind]

"Aushwitz Unchained": Would Hollywood have Greenlit This Movie?

Let's Use the same Django premise for the Holocaust:

Auschwitz Unchained:

A Jew being held at a concentration camp in Auschwitz is freed by a German Dr Bounty Hunter looking for a bounty on one of Hilters Top generals during the Holocaust. He goes to Auschwitz to find a Jew who's family was torn apart by this general. He frees and trains him and agrees to help him find his wife who is being held hostage at Hilter's Layer. They go from concentration camp to camp killing Nazi's until they get to the layer taking out Hilters personal guards, the general and then killing Hitler and saving his wife. There are 109 Jewish Slurs, 70's Music and Campy Jokes. Meanwhile we see the horrors of gassing, and death at the concentration camps.

Nope. Not in a Million Years.

 

[daze23]

what get's greenlit in Hollywood is always gonna depend on various nuances and trends. so you can't just change things around and act like it would be the 'same movie'

 

[Rapmastermind]

what get's greenlit in Hollywood is always gonna depend on various nuances and trends. so you can't just change things around and act like it would be the 'same movie'

No that's true but my point is I don't think Jewish people would allow it which is why "b*stards" had ZERO concentration camp scenes.