Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

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The point is, im not giving the makers of the film a dime because of the over the top racist garbage, wanting to see it or not. You have no point fukk boy. In your mind if you feel offended by something you dont want to see it. I dont think like a fukk boy like you. I see what i want but i dont give the nikka whos movie i find offensive, a dime, then i see it anyway. fukk outta here with your philosophical boundaries.

Ok, so you admit you do want to see it and will watch it, and that you aren't one of those people you mentioned who "don't want to see all that." That's what I thought.
 

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Ok, so you admit you do want to see it and will watch it, and that you aren't one of those people you mentioned who "don't want to see all that." That's what I thought.

Did you read what i said. I said im bootlegging it. I think everything is self explanatory. You're dying for a conversation with me like a bytch. Pick your battles wiser next time.
 

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Did you read what i said. I said im bootlegging it. I think everything is self explanatory. You're dying for a conversation with me like a bytch. Pick your battles.

Of course I did. You contradicted yourself than admitted it. I was simply acknowledging it. I don't care if you want to watch the movie or not, but it pains me to see you making a fool out of yourself and struggling to do some moral posturing.
 

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You're like the 3rd dummy to post this bullshyt in this thread..

So a muthafukka has to actually see a movie bout Pedos abusing kids first in order to hate it??

U cant see the trailer,read the plot and say "nah im not seeing this shyt"?

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We're talking about art, not illegal pornography

Someone earlier pointed out there are films you don't have to see in order to know you won't like them, and I changed my position in light of that. But Spike isn't arguing that - he's arguing the film is offensive to his/our ancestors, and therefore will not see it. IIRC Jaimie Fox said Spike told him that he liked the script...so something is wrong here. The film is a blaxpoitation take on slavery with spaghetti western homages thrown in. How is that offensive to anyone? In fact, would Spike argue that blaxpoitation flicks from the 60s/70s were offensive to his people by trivializing the civil rights era?
 

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i think people are forgetting that slavery in this movie is a backdrop and it's not the main focus of the movie. this movie isn't roots and this movie isn't about nat turner out to free all of his peoples. this movie is about django's revenge on people who wronged him and get his wife back. django is a slave approximately for 10mins then spends the rest of the movie killing criminals, the kkk, and slave owners all of them white i might add except for stephen he deserve it. is the word ****** used a lot? yes, but not guinness record book levels. i didn't find the movie offensive because quite frankly it's not a movie about slavery and i don't know why anybody who saw the trailers would even think this was a movie about slavery.
 

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We're talking about art, not illegal pornography

Someone earlier pointed out there are films you don't have to see in order to know you won't like them, and I changed my position in light of that. But Spike isn't arguing that - he's arguing the film is offensive to his/our ancestors, and therefore will not see it. IIRC Jaimie Fox said Spike told him that he liked the script...so something is wrong here. The film is a blaxpoitation take on slavery with spaghetti western homages thrown in. How is that offensive to anyone? In fact, would Spike argue that blaxpoitation flicks from the 60s/70s were offensive to his people by trivializing the civil rights era?

And Spike stated in an interview with Nelson George back in 1986 that he never watched blaxploitation flicks, either.
 

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Of course I did. You contradicted yourself than admitted it. I was simply acknowledging it. I don't care if you want to watch the movie or not, but it pains me to see you making a fool out of yourself and struggling to do some moral posturing.

Yea, everyones contradicts themself, even you. Who gives a fukk in the end. The nikka aint gettin a dime of my money, but the streets will. Then ill sit back, have a sip of some spirits, watch the film, hate it passionately then come back to shyt on it some more......and bytch i love it. :shaq: The glory. :blessed:
 

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Yea, everyones contradicts themself, even you. Who gives a fukk in the end. The nikka aint gettin a dime of my money, but the streets will. Then ill sit back, have a sip of some spirits, watch the film, hate it passionately then come back to shyt on it some more......and bytch i love it. :shaq: The glory. :blessed:

you're really :umad: why even bother watching it if you already made up your mind that you don't like it? reality of the situation is you passing out bootlegs to your peoples could possibly end up giving qt some money anyway :yeshrug:
 

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you're really :umad: why even bother watching it if you already made up your mind that you don't like it? :yeshrug:

Cuz i love to hate on garbage. :blessed: I cant wait to see it cuz i know if you cats are loving it and calling it a classic ill see the filth in it to label it what it is, Trash! and bytch i love it. :shaq:
 

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And Spike stated in an interview with Nelson George back in 1986 that he never watched blaxploitation flicks, either.

I'll at least credit him for being consistent, if that's true. Got a link?

Still I feel it's a stupid, closed minded position. Especially for a NY filmmaker
 

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I'll at least credit him for being consistent, if that's true. Got a link?

Still I feel it's a stupid, closed minded position. Especially for a NY filmmaker

It was in his book Spike Lee's Gotta Have It: Inside Guierrilla Filmmaking.

If it's still in circulation at the library, check it out.
 

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LOL @ anyone saying they don't judge films without seeing them. We all do it all the time when we see trailers at the movies and say "Weak, not seeing it". Also people have blow Spike's comments out of proportion cause the media wanted a "Black Vs White" drama to go with the movie's premise. All Spike said was "I don't want to see it cause I feel the premise is disrespectful to my ancestors, I'm speaking for myself nobody else". But read all the headlines. "Spike RIPS QT, Spike SLAMS Django".

Read all the racist comments from people going at spike from TMZ and tons of other forums. Spike didn't rip anything all he said was it wasn't for him. Yet if you read some of these comments people act like Spike never had a good movie while QT is making his 1,000th Revenge movie in a row.
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Again Spike never said anything about the actors, the production value all he said was the premise itself to him is disrespectful and that's his opinion. He doesn't have to see a film to know the premise is disrespectful. "Birth of a Nation" was disrespectful, I don't have to see it to know that, I just have to read the premise of the movie. Spike felt Slavery shouldn't be minimized to a shoot em up western and that's his business to feel that. In no way did he say "QT sucks, Jamie can't act, The movie quality is terrible". If he did then people could say "You should see it 1st" what Spike said fits in with anyone whoever declined seeing a movie cause the trailer or premise didn't do it for them. LOL @ anyone acting like they've never judge a film before seeing it.
Birth of a Nation had a pro-racism message. Django is obviously the opposite so...really not comparable.

That being said, the movie is a revenge flick. And to do a revenge flick, you typically need a terrible monster of an antagonist to warrant the hero seeking and getting revenge. Hard to beat slavemasters for that role. I would compare it to something like I Spit on Your Grave or Last House on the Left. There are some people that are simply not interested in watching those films because they are particularly sensitive to the injustice that afflicts the hero and gives motive to carry out the revenge. But those films, like Django, don't handle the subject matter in a disrespectful way. Its never glorified or treated lightly. Still there are some that will be sensitive or simply not want to experience these scenes and they have the right to that.

Also, there's something to be said for the fact that, while there is the conventional white savior trope that enables Django to fulfill his quest, that arrangement is ultimately dropped and its when he's finally all on his own that he finally becomes fully "unchained.:blessed:"
 
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Spike should drop a nat turner movie.
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