Spike Lee calls Chance the Rapper a "fraud, a straight up fraud"

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Elaborate on how Chance is a 'fraud'?

I could see if he depicted himself as someone he isn't in his music. If he's putting out a message that he doesn't know about out. Yal acting like he's out here making music like Herb or Bibby. I swear, The Booth...
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You can be a fraud, clown or mediocre and NOT be a Gangsta rapper breh.

I don't know why people get a pass for simply not being another super thug on
record.
 

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So what's the solution to the ptsd that chance says is the reason for the violence?
 

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You can be a fraud, clown or mediocre and NOT be a Gangsta rapper breh.

I don't know why people get a pass for simply not being another super thug on
record.
Ok.
So explain how Chance is a fraud because of his dad's job title.

How is Chance a fraud and what the fukk is Spike getting at here?
 

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Ok.
So explain how Chance is a fraud because of his dad's job title.

How is Chance a fraud and what the fukk is Spike getting at here?

If he has family in the government or that is directly in a position to potentially influence it
then he should spare his complaints about spike lee or stop worrying about identity politics
and instead should openly criticizing people in charge.

Especially given his father's job title.
I know brehs are primarily concerned with media usually following the belief that it matters
more than it does but in reality, policy and funding matter a whole hell of a lot more.

If he was really about it, he'd be coming for his fathers head and the mayors head and the senator's and so on.
Spike lee and his portrayal of Chicago should be in last place as far as what's important.
 
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If he has family in the government or that is directly in a position to potentially influence it
then he should spare his complaints about spike lee or stop worrying about identity politics
and instead should openly criticizing people in charge.

Especially given his father's job title.
I know brehs are primarily concerned with media usually following the belief that it matters
more than it does but in reality, policy and funding matter a whole hell of a lot more.

If he was really about it, he'd be coming for his fathers head and the mayors head and the senator's and so on. Spike lee and his portrayal of Chicago should be in last place as far as what's important.
Dumbest shyt I've read on here in quite some time
 

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If he has family in the government or that is directly in a position to potentially influence it
then he should spare his complaints about spike lee or stop worrying about identity politics
and instead should openly criticizing people in charge.

Especially given his father's job title.
I know brehs are primarily concerned with media usually following the belief that it matters
more than it does but in reality, policy and funding matter a whole hell of a lot more.

If he was really about it, he'd be coming for his fathers head and the mayors head and the senator's and so on. Spike lee and his portrayal of Chicago should be in last place as far as what's important.
What exactly should he say? Should he go at Obama because gangsters are killing each other? :what:

His father has dedicated his life to that shyt, he's seen it with his own eyes.. Why would he criticize him for not completely solving one of the hardest and most persistent problems of any city? He's criticizing people making money of exploiting the very same cats problems that his dad is trying to dead. If his dad could get 100 billion dollars to fix the problem, he most likely would. But this is not elementary mathematics, it's some of the hardest structural problems and they are subject to laws and budget constraints.

You could be inhumane like in NY, give everyone 20 for the petty crimes, remove affordable housing and let the police harass people. That's a quick solution to reduce the problems and shift them to other places, or we could just kill everyone, that's another solution. You should do some research about his dad, he could be in Washington ballin right now. Lobbying for oil companies or whatever, but instead he and the mayor created a new office that connects directly with the people. So that they can voice their opinions directly to the "people in charge".
 
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the reason chicago folks are mad at spike is because of the blatant attempt to capitalize on that "chiraq" term that EVERYONE hates. not only that, he uses that term to promote the movie, but the movie is not even about the violence in chicago really. and that's why everyone feels like they were misled by the movie and it's controversial title.
 

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What exactly should he say? Should he go at Obama because gangsters are killing each other? :what:

His father has dedicated his life to that shyt, he's seen it with his own eyes.. Why would he criticize him for not completely solving one of the hardest and most persistent problems of any city? He's criticizing people making money of exploiting the very same cats problems that his dad is trying to dead. If his dad could get 100 billion dollars to fix the problem, he most likely would. But this is not elementary mathematics, it's some of the hardest structural problems and they are subject to laws and budget constraints.

You could be inhumane like in NY, give everyone 20 for the petty crimes, remove affordable housing and let the police harass people. That's a quick solution to reduce the problems and shift them to other places, or we could just kill everyone, that's another solution. You should do some research about his dad, he could be in Washington ballin right now. Lobbying for oil companies or whatever, but instead he and the mayor created a new office that connects directly with the people. So that they can voice their opinions directly to the "people in charge".
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Why would he go at Obama when my post is primarily concerned with LOCAL government ?
And WHY shouldn't he be critical of LOCAL government ? That's one of the primary reasons
Chicago is in the predicament that's it's currently in. I mean if memory serves me correctly
even the way the city is/was designed was around avoiding minorities and keeping them
as the de facto second class citizens.

For all intents and purposes we know that Chicago has been and currently still is facing
massive issues involving education, true gun control, funding, jobs etc.
These are issues that I personally feel eclipse a movie and then some.

I'll readily admit that I don't know much about his father or what he's achieved but I will say that
it doesn't appear to be the torch that Chance the rapper is carrying and it's primarily what this
thread seems to be about. Which is why I think if he has any criticism to throw about, it certainly shouldn't stop at Spike lee.

And frankly, I don't think Spike Lee's movie is about exploitation. I haven't seen it yet but
judging by the post @SunZoo made, I get the feeling it isn't nearly as bad as other brehs
are saying it is.

Dumbest shyt I've read on here in quite some time
How in the world is that "Dumb" ? You asked why he could be seen as a fraud or fraudulent, I gave you an explanation.
And instead of trying to understand my reasoning or why I think what I think, you did the typical Booth thing.

In reality Rappers in the past like Sista Souljah, :
Sister Souljah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sister Souljah moment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chuck D :
Interview: Chuck D | The Progressive

And Yo Yo :
Yo-Yo (rapper) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All readily participated in the political process realizing it's importance.
They didn't just play up how "awoke" or "conscious" they were in their lyrics.
I realize the booth is a half step from an outhouse when it concerns discussion
but there was hardly anything "dumb" or "stupid" about my post.
 

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And frankly, I don't think Spike Lee's movie is about exploitation. I haven't seen it yet but
judging by the post @SunZoo made, I get the feeling it isn't nearly as bad as other brehs
are saying it is.

That exploitation shyt makes me laugh, like this was some kinda money grab. It's more of an art piece if anything.

I don't know if you fukk with Double Toasted or not but their review was good.



@SunZoo Bibby can actually rap. He's not a 'drill' rapper, either. They're from Chicago, they're allowed to speak on it since they're kinda what the movie's about.

I know he can rap but I'd still put him that Lane.

This is Hip Hop so we know the deal, but objectively, while they are of course allowed to speak on it, people should be allowed to point out the kind of music they make and how they perpetuate the "chi-raq" mythos in their music.
 
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Another thread of mine that goes featured

And I dont get no notifications from it:snoop:

Why do my threads leave me when they get popular breh :mjcry:
 
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