Spain overtakes the U.S for number 1 basketball country in the world (fiba)

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Remember the Olympics last year?
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I rest my case :coffee:
The US also lost to France in the group stage.

The gap is closer than Americans want to think.
 

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The US also lost to France in the group stage.

The gap is closer than Americans want to think.

At the next fiba world cup or olympics

Canada might drop a roster of

Benedict Mathurin
Lu Dort
Dillon Brooks
Chris Boucher
Rj Barrett
Andrew Wiggins
Shaedon Sharpe
Kelly Olynyk
Andrew Nembhard
Jamal Murray
Brandon Clarke
Dwight Powell
shai gilgeous alexander

this isn't going to be a walk through
 
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Damn. This is what happens when one (guess which country?) rests on their laurels and chants slogans while thinking they're the best at everything, not take international sport (and international events in general) and refuses to observe the rise of new powers.
 
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America laughs and keeps being complacent as the rest of the world continues to improve.

The USA remains the favorite, but the gap keeps on shrinking.

If and when America does lose on the global stage again, rather than acknowledge the need to retool and adapt, the country will almost certainly just blame their losing players and their "character flaws" or "desire".

But whatever. In many ways this is something to be celebrated. The NBA has made global expansion of the game a priority for 35 years. It can't act surprised or disappointed when the rest of the globe embraces and becomes a worthy adversary.
You have the right idea and attitude toward this thread's situation.
 

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Damn. This is what happens when one (guess which country?) rests on their laurels and chants slogans while thinking they're the best at everything, not take international sport (and international events in general) and refuses to observe the rise of new powers.
So an arbitrary ranking based off of tournaments that the US best don’t compete in is supposed to mean something. :mjlol: The world has a chance to dethrone the USA in 2020 and failed once again. In fact the US dominance is understated because basketball is a high variance sport and you’d think a team would get hot just one game and beat the USA. A team that literally gets put together at the last minute every 4 years.


You son yourselves with this thread
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America laughs and keeps being complacent as the rest of the world continues to improve.

The USA remains the favorite, but the gap keeps on shrinking.

If and when America does lose on the global stage again, rather than acknowledge the need to retool and adapt, the country will almost certainly just blame their losing players and their "character flaws" or "desire".

But whatever. In many ways this is something to be celebrated. The NBA has made global expansion of the game a priority for 35 years. It can't act surprised or disappointed when the rest of the globe embraces and becomes a worthy adversary.

The gap isn’t really shrinking. FIBA World rankings are based on a points system and the U.S. is losing points because they keep sending thrown together teams of random G-Leaguers to compete in qualifiers and smaller tournaments.

The only reason the “world” even has a chance is because American players don’t value playing for Team USA like international players do for their countries, and because players are so non-committing to the program there’s no chemistry from roster continuity.
 
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No one is denying the US has the best players in the world.

But they were fighting for their lives in that gold medal game while Gobert was dominant. Other nations have actual programs that put players against with each other for years. The USA's "out talent" approach isn't as sound as it was 25-30 years ago.
 

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America laughs and keeps being complacent as the rest of the world continues to improve.

The USA remains the favorite, but the gap keeps on shrinking.

If and when America does lose on the global stage again, rather than acknowledge the need to retool and adapt, the country will almost certainly just blame their losing players and their "character flaws" or "desire".

But whatever. In many ways this is something to be celebrated. The NBA has made global expansion of the game a priority for 35 years. It can't act surprised or disappointed when the rest of the globe embraces and becomes a worthy adversary.



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When Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid are practically 4/5 of the NBA's best players it's safe to say domestic talent ain't a clear win at the top of the sport. shyt, even on average you're starting to see much more international talent pretty much take up more room on NBA rosters.

Not even bringing up Wembanyama, Aday Mara, and all these 7'2+ overseas players with crazy skills that emphasize team ball.

Lowkey, if Luka ever decided to play for Spain shyt would look spooky. I think dude actually played in Spain more years than he has played in the NBA.

It's really no secret the rest of the world has caught up (not is catching up, caught up) and has created some of the NBA's best players (like Luka).

It's simply a numbers thing. There are 160 million men in the U.S, but 4 billion men around the world - that's nearly 25x more men around the world - 25 times! Of course that means there are going to be taller people out there than in the states.

Given the right training and the competition/talent pool to choose from becomes much more intense for such few positions on a roster.




League is 400 or so players and 120 are international. Additionally a lot more international talent coming in the next few drafts.
Compare that to the 90's where you had about 20 international players total.

Unfortunately, it's also why you hear far more :mjpls: takes because there are a lot more international fans posting on social media and talking about the game.
 
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Lowkey, if Luka ever decided to play for Spain shyt would look spooky. I think dude actually played in Spain more years than he has played in the NBA.
If you've already played for a country, you have to get a release from that country be declared eligible for someone else

If Slovenia can develop some bigs, they could have a shot in a one off game

A fully stacked France with Embiid just joining them, Canada Spain, or Greece with full participation, are realistically the teams that could beat the USA
 

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Last time I checked, it's still some of the US best players vs ALL of the opposing countries best players.

I know globally the gap has shortened but come on man....this sounds like other countries were complaining to FIBA
 

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At the next fiba world cup or olympics

Canada might drop a roster of

Benedict Mathurin
Lu Dort
Dillon Brooks
Chris Boucher
Rj Barrett
Andrew Wiggins
Shaedon Sharpe
Kelly Olynyk
Andrew Nembhard
Jamal Murray
Brandon Clarke
Dwight Powell
shai gilgeous alexander

this isn't going to be a walk through
and lose to Moldova
 
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