Sooo....no talk on Kiev's gradual descent into Mad Max beyond Thunderdome status??

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War isn't Putin's aim, influence in the new govt is. He doesn't want to go to war anymore than the EU or US does don't let the saber rattling fool you. If you listen to each side's narrative you find bits of truth within the propaganda.

Well he is going about it the wrong way.
 

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You want to influence a country and it's government so you invade their economic heart and try to forcefully tell it's soldiers to bow down. You set up camp with unmarked soldiers at that.

Yeah, it's leverage with what tools he has at his disposal. The EU/US used soft power to get what they wanted and now Russia is using hard power. Classic geopolitics on both sides.

- Crimea isn't the economic heart of Ukraine, E.Ukraine is.

- Russia signed an agreement with Ukraine that gave them the right to intervene in times of crisis if Ukraine or Crimea requested it, Crimea sent that request. Plus, and invasion would mean troops came from Russia. The Crimea situation is almost all troops that were already stations there, the few that were flown in was also legal under the agreement I alluded to.

- Telling the soldiers to surrender is in order to guarantee that order won't be lost like other parts of the country, again a request of the Crimean govt.

- Putin is using this to emphasize that although the protesters from Midon were in their right mind to get rid of Yanukovych, the process in which it was done was wrong and didn't consider the huge population that voted for Yanukovych in the first place. By pointing this out, it makes the new govt have to be more honest.....a new govt that, and I can't stress this enough, has neo-Nazi elements within it and more or less have corrupt characters amongst the good ones. Ukraine's relationship with Russia is extremely important moving forward, and vice versa.
 

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Lol Putin aint about that life they just dont know. Let Putin go to war he will lose control of Russia they ready to explode like Ukrainr the citizens. Chez gone come down and unleash them terrorist attacks he know better.
do you mean Chechens? they're all in Syria fighting in the name of liberty, democracy and feminism. :comeon:
 

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exactly! One thing I've always found neat about the cold war is that both sides had similar tech for example
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It's like captain america and the red skull. WHat I dont get is that how did the Germans get so technologically advance with rockets? Half the German scientist went to US other half Russia after WWII
thats not similar tech.

fukk...the Russians got MOST of that shyt by sheer espionage.

The Russians are straight swagger jackers.
 

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Lol Putin aint about that life they just dont know. Let Putin go to war he will lose control of Russia they ready to explode like Ukrainr the citizens. Chez gone come down and unleash them terrorist attacks he know better.
Prince Bandar (Saudi's version of CIA chief) already put the brakes on Putin's Chechnya operations :mjpls:

Straight up told Putin he ain't want that skress. :whew:
 

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Prince Bandar (Saudi's version of CIA chief) already put the brakes on Putin's Chechnya operations :mjpls:

Straight up told Putin he ain't want that skress. :whew:

Putin think it's the 80s and 70s nobody fight real wars you use satellites to do the dirt. America one up his ass.
 

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