Sooo....no talk on Kiev's gradual descent into Mad Max beyond Thunderdome status??

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

3m ago

Nato calls on Russia to "de-escalate tensions"


Nato’s general secretary, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, has been speaking following an emergency Nato meeting on the crisis in Ukraine, saying that members of the alliance call on Russia to “de-escalate tensions”.

He added:





We call on Russia to honour all it international committments to withdraw its force to bases and to refrain from any interference elsewhere in Ukraine.





Rasmussen also said that Nato members were urging “both parties” in the crisis to seek a peaceful resolution through dialogue and through the dispatch of observers under the auspieces of the UN Security Council or the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).



25m ago



None of the 44 countries taking part in the 11th Winter Paralympics, which open on Friday 7 March, have yet hinted at withdrawal, but a number are monitoring the situation, reports my colleague, Peter Walker.

The Russian venue, which has just finished hosting the Winter Olympics, is less than 300 miles from Simferopol, Crimea’s administrative capital, although there are no immediate security fears for the 700 participating athletes.

However, should the situation escalate significantly in the next few days, some Paralympic associations could come under political pressure to reconsider.



A spokeswoman for the United States Olympic Committee, which also deals with Paralympic matters, said:









Nothing has changed in our planning; we are looking forward to a great 2014 Paralympic Winter Games.







On Saturday the International Paralympic Committee said it hoped to see Russia adhere to the Olympic truce, a tradition backed by a UN resolution that asks nations to cease hostilities during the Olympics and Paralympics.



The concept of the Olympic truce, codified by a UN resolution in 1993, came in the wake of the tit-for-tat boycotts of Summer Olympics which badly affected the 1980 and 1984 Games.











31m ago

Shadow over Sochi Paralympics


Britain’s Prime Minister, David Cameron, has instructed his ministers to not attend the Sochi Paralympics due to escalating tensions between Russia and Ukraine, while several national Paralympic associations are busy discussing whether their athletes should still take part.

Following an announcement by the foreign secretary, William Hague, that the UK was withdrawing from preparatory talks for the G8 summit in the Olympic and Paralympic venue of Sochi, scheduled for June, Cameron tweeted:

Because of the serious situation in Ukraine,@WilliamJHague & I believe it would be wrong for UK Ministers to attend the Sochi Paralympics.

— David Cameron (@David_Cameron) March 2, 2014​

37m ago



The head of of the Ukrainian Navy, who swore allegiance earlier today to the pro-Russian government of the Crimea region, has been dismissed and faces a treason investigation, according to a Ukrainian government official

Deputy National Security Council Secretary Viktoria Siumar told journalists at a briefing that Admiral Denis Berezovsky had been fired and replaced by another officer.

She said he had offered no resistance when his headquarters was surrounded and then transferred his allegiance to the regional parliament in Crimea.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-navy-...-172726132.html;_ylt=AwrBJR.bahNT8xIAMBrQtDMD

theres no going back from that...

You pretty much acknowledge that Ukraine will fall.

 

[Jhoon]

This had me roflmao. Is Kerry fukking serious with that statement? Iraq would like a word with you Mr Kerry.

whsts funny is Ukraine is trying to avoid that l. if europe didnt think $15 bill was worth it, why would they risk human lives? they need to prepare for that loss

 

[ill]

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-navy-...-172726132.html;_ylt=AwrBJR.bahNT8xIAMBrQtDMD

This is going to happen all over the country. A full out civil war is imminent. Russians have family and friends in Ukraine and vice versa. The cultures are intertwined. They don't want war. They don't want to hurt their friends. However, some Ukrainians hate Russia for all that it stood for during the Soviet times. They want their sovereignty and I understand that. Using Nazi's on either side is outrageous but when its the Nazi's who actually gained power in Ukraine, you have to attack them first and eliminate that threat. It's unreal how so many Russians/Ukrainians don't know their own history and allow for such preposterous anti-Semitic groups to thrive in their countries. Absolutely unreal.

If the US and EU keep talking shyt, Russia WILL make a real land grab and not just one that was traditionally theirs. Putin gives no fukks. The countries economy isn't great right now, but a revived military complex will quickly fix that. UN sanctions are a joke. It will just lead Russia to do more business with China, Iran, Syria, etc. Places that the US is trying to put down will now get a big boost in support from Russia.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'd hate to be a Ukrainian soldier right now

I'd just take my uniform off and go home

 

[Sinnerman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>NATO secretary-general: Military action against Ukraine by Russian Federation is breach of international law. <a href="http://t.co/3aFTfRQq1Y">http://t.co/3aFTfRQq1Y</a></p>&mdash; CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) <a href="">March 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:kobelaff2:

 

[Sinnerman]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

2m ago

Medvedev: Russia 'ready to develop ties with Ukraine'


Russia’s Prime Minister, Dmitry Medvedev, says that Russia is ready to develop ties with Ukraine, “but not with those who seized power through bloodshed”.

That’s according to a snap on Reuters. More to come no doubt.


oh boy....

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This is going to happen all over the country. A full out civil war is imminent. Russians have family and friends in Ukraine and vice versa. The cultures are intertwined. They don't want war. They don't want to hurt their friends. However, some Ukrainians hate Russia for all that it stood for during the Soviet times. They want their sovereignty and I understand that. Using Nazi's on either side is outrageous but when its the Nazi's who actually gained power in Ukraine, you have to attack them first and eliminate that threat. It's unreal how so many Russians/Ukrainians don't know their own history and allow for such preposterous anti-Semitic groups to thrive in their countries. Absolutely unreal.

If the US and EU keep talking shyt, Russia WILL make a real land grab and not just one that was traditionally theirs. Putin gives no fukks. The countries economy isn't great right now, but a revived military complex will quickly fix that. UN sanctions are a joke. It will just lead Russia to do more business with China, Iran, Syria, etc. Places that the US is trying to put down will now get a big boost in support from Russia.

Yeah I never understood that either. Hitler hated no one as much as he hated the Soviets. Hell, I'm sure that Nazi hatred goes back to the Teuton vs Slav beefs from WWI and the wars prior to that. It's like if neo-black nationalists started burning crosses and rockin KKK gear. It's just rich how the EU/US are bytchin like this when they basically created this mess by legitimizing the oppositions theft of power. Yanukovich might be terrible, but he was democratically elected and the West undermined their democracy as well as disregarded the agreement that would've avoided all this in exchange for premature celebrations for a regime that has extremist neo-Nazi elements within it. The part where John Kerry says both sides can benefit is especially funny, that was what was gonna happen at first but it wasn't good enough when Yanukovich was there.....now that they got who they want they want Russia to go back to that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>NATO secretary-general: Military action against Ukraine by Russian Federation is breach of international law. <a href="http://t.co/3aFTfRQq1Y">http://t.co/3aFTfRQq1Y</a></p>&mdash; CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) <a href="">March 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:kobelaff2:

Why haven't Bush or Cheney gone to the Hague yet?

 

[ill]

International law is written by those in charge aka the EU and US are in "charge" of it right now. Luckily they created the UN Security Council with the worlds real 6 superpowers and luckily they all have veto powers. Russia will veto any charges the UN brings, and China will back them up.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

International law is written by those in charge aka the EU and US are in "charge" of it right now. Luckily they created the UN Security Council with the worlds real 6 superpowers and luckily they all have veto powers. Russia will veto any charges the UN brings, and China will back them up.

Welp...thats how the law works




























......thus, nihilism

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

The breh Stephen Cohen shytted on Antonio Mora the other day on this subject. Here's a really good article on the slanted reporting and general bias in this conflict by the west: http://www.thenation.com/article/178344/distorting-russia

But the most crucial media omission is Moscow’s reasonable conviction that the struggle for Ukraine is yet another chapter in the West’s ongoing, US-led march toward post-Soviet Russia, which began in the 1990s with NATO’s eastward expansion and continued with US-funded NGO political activities inside Russia, a US-NATO military outpost in Georgia and missile-defense installations near Russia. Whether this longstanding Washington-Brussels policy is wise or reckless, it—not Putin’s December financial offer to save Ukraine’s collapsing economy—is deceitful. The EU’s “civilizational” proposal, for example, includes “security policy” provisions, almost never reported, that would apparently subordinate Ukraine to NATO.

Any doubts about the Obama administration’s real intentions in Ukraine should have been dispelled by the recently revealed taped conversation between a top State Department official, Victoria Nuland, and the US ambassador in Kiev. The media predictably focused on the source of the “leak” and on Nuland’s verbal “gaffe”—“fukk the EU.” But the essential revelation was that high-level US officials were plotting to “midwife” a new, anti-Russian Ukrainian government by ousting or neutralizing its democratically elected president—that is, a coup.

Such factual distortions point to two flagrant omissions by Snyder and other US media accounts. The now exceedingly dangerous confrontation between the two Ukraines was not “ignited,” as the Times claims, by Yanukovych’s duplicitous negotiating—or by Putin—but by the EU’s reckless ultimatum, in November, that the democratically elected president of a profoundly divided country choose between Europe and Russia. Putin’s proposal for a tripartite arrangement, rarely if ever reported, was flatly rejected by US and EU officials.

But now Kerry and them coppin pleas sayin lets not make it East vs West.

 

[gho3st]

Nato aint about to do shyt against Russia. All they can do right now is denounce Russia publicly and that's about it

Dont even let me get started on the EU. they can only flex their muscles on their citizens and small african countries

 

[burner]

like any one can really do anything to russia

 

[Good Guy Guevara]

Putin is pulling our card and he knows the West isn't going to do shyt. If he's successful in his land grab it will set precedent for other countries to do the same.