Someone finally explains the Troy Ave and Taxstone situation accurately

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Dudes always letting their pride do them in. These are grown men who were 30 years old when this happened, with children and families to provide for...

If I'm a rising artist and a podcaster says they don't like my music, aint nothing to want smoke over. If said podcaster says they keep bringing me up because I bully people who don't want problems, of course I have an issue with that. I'm already a bully, bullies don't like to be called out, and if I'm called out by someone with a real street rep I have to prove I'm just as tough as them...

Troy picking on certain people looks wack, and being in the room with dude didn't mean he had to say anything. Honestly the burden of proof is on Tax in that situation, if he's the one who instigated the shyt abd couldn't keep Troy out his mouth. If we in the same room together and he says nothing it makes him look bad. Keep laughing at his critiques of you and getting your paper...

If he really wanted the issue with Tax he doesn't need Banga or anyone else to approach Tax with him. If running down on him was that pressing he could do that without Banga. But really there was no reason to run down on Tax anyway, all that posturing by Tax on what he'd do if they ran into each other doesn't mean anything. Yall in the same room, let him make the move if it's like that...

On the other side, if I'm Tax I can critique someone's music without making it personal. I can think you're a square for chumping out people who don't want problems, but I don't need to voice that. If I do voice it, I don't need to add all the "what I'll do to you" shyt even if you respond to me. Leave it where it's at, but really ain't no need for me to make an ongoing thing about how weak I think you are. If I said it once you already know...

Dudes bringing guns into clubs is a major issue anyway you slice it, people are coming out to have a good time, not get shot. First of all if I'm a rising media presence, I'm not going anywhere where I feel I need to bring a gun to anyway. shyt I never been a burgeoning public personality and I'm STILL not going to an event where I need to strap up to feel comfortable...

So that was a mistake on Tax part...

If you run down on me for talking about you, even with someone else, we shake it out there. I understand that being jumped inspires a desire to clap at people, but you're not on the block, you're at a public concert/entertainment venue. And if I can't handle two men then I shouldn't run my mouth in the first place, because even if those two dudes get the best of me, I can always say afterwards old boy was p*ssy, he ain't wanna shake it out 1v1...

Pulling the gun out in this scenario is wrong on all levels...

Personally I find it hard to believe either if these dudes are who they say they are. If I'm really like that, I don't need to "bully" anyone, let alone people who not in the streets getting active. If I'm really like that, I don't need to grab my partner to run down on you. And if I'm really like that I don't really need to say shyt at all if YOU'RE the nikka who been talking all the shyt...

All this shyt frames Troy as a guy who manufactures incidents to gas himself as a tough guy. He don't actually look like someone who is with the shyt...

On the flip if I'm Tax, even if you respond to my public critiques of you, who am I trying to impress by publicly stating what I'll do to you if I see you? We ain't in the streets, I'm saying this over air where muhfukkas hear me. Why am I saying this and whose attention am I seeking? I got your attention by calling you trash so I didn't need the extras. If in really like that I ain't gotta talk about what I'll do to you if we cross paths...

If I really wanted that issue he ain't gotta approach me in the spot, I'll go to him, though again wasn't no need to incite shyt to start with. And ain't nobody trying to get jumped but if you run down on me with another man it makes you look soft, so we can shake it out there. Ain't no need to fukk up my future...

Both these dudes had some arrested development and a whole lot of immaturity, so maybe that's what it is. Or it could be a combination of that + they weren't as big outside as they say or people think. These are situations that define the differences in purported street dudes, guys who are outside earlier on tend to mature faster and handle situations differently or avoid certain ones altogether...

This entire shyt from the start to end was avoidable on both parts. Ain't no winners or heros in this...
 

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2 cats that wanted to have the same hip hop rep as 50...
...not realizing 50 is smarter than his rep and knows how to move.

Troy didnt want to take the online L of having someone "bully" him
Tax didnt want to take an ass whooping in front of his peers

One man is in jail
Another is dead

The streets in a nutshell
 

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I only watched a lil bit of the interview but he said he was breaking down 8balls, said he was out selling his own cds.

nikkas seemed pretty humble to me.
I mean as a whole, obviously he's matured a bit. But he's trying to come off in that vid as someone with Valor and a code of honor. When he the dude that got into his feels cause someone called his music wack. This the same dude that mocked a suicide.

And out his mouth he said he ran down on 50 to get busy. That statement alone makes me think of a puppy with his head down wagging his tail stepping to the pack leader trying to get a morsel of food without getting bit.

Troy is see through. And he's oblivious to his corniness. He even wants to take credit for not getting touched on Rikers when it was the house holder that made that call.
 
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Shut the fukk up and dont quote me know more bytch nikka.

Yall nikkas just keep moving the goal post. First nikkas against snitching, now nikkas is cool with it. Yall just cool with sucka shyt. nikka talk crazy and dont expect no repercussions. You nikkas are herbs. I got to stop going back and forth with yall.
Alright tough guy
 

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That's not a good point at all. Taxstone had a felony charge on his record, meaning he could not legally have a gun in any state. To make matters worse, he got caught with an illegal semiautomatic that was illegally brought from one state into another. Those are federal crimes, shyt that gets the FBI involved. I think he also got charged with state violations but that's irrelevant when the feds are fukking you on top of that. So the south vs NY laws is irrelevant here.

He would've sat for the gun of course. I'm only talking about the most important charge which is murder.
 

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China Mack kinda has a point imo Maff Hoffa show is not really cool for having Troy on.


Also imo Math Hoffa is a Black DJ Vlad Mecca and company also to a degree.
Math and Mecca routinely in different episodes ask borderline if not blatant questions that lead or could lead to incrimination. Like very naive exposure questions on a street level.

But at the same time the predominantly non street audience LOVES these questions and answers they want every detail they wanna know what color boxers Rapper's had when they made their favorite song. Lmao smh rap media and rap fans/ listeners some of the goofiest ever.
 

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2 cats that wanted to have the same hip hop rep as 50...
...not realizing 50 is smarter than his rep and knows how to move.

Troy didnt want to take the online L of having someone "bully" him
Tax didnt want to take an ass whooping in front of his peers

One man is in jail
Another is dead

The streets in a nutshell

In US law you don't have to take ass whippings from people.
Physical Assault can result in life changing injury and or death even without a gun used.

You can defend your self with force and deadly force.

I think you and other listen too much rap music. I never thought I would say this but it almost like the music distorts what really happens in a civilized society under US law.

Like you guys think it is perfectly normal to kill or physical attack someone if you don't like what they say and you will be exonerated in a court of law for doing so. Maybe it's just a weirdo coli nikka nerd thing.
 
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In US law you don't have to take ass whippings from people.
Physical Assault can result in life changing injury and or death even without a gun used.

You can defend your self with force and deadly force.

I think you and other listen too much rap music. I never thought I would say this but it almost like the music makes distorts what really happens in a civilized society under US law.

Like you guys think it is perfectly normal to kill or physical attack someone if you don't like what they say and you will be exonerated in a court of law for doing so. Maybe it it's just a weirdo coli nikka nerd thing.
if u bump into a dude that been calling u p*ssy, saying he will smack u, and he will shoot u. how would u approach that dude If y’all 3ft from each other?
 

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Tax attorney is Kenneth J Montgomery (has a good podcast and nonprofit of the name 'Brooklyn Combime', he was Bobby Smurda lawyer who initially achieved his plea deal that he would up having but before Bobby took the deal he fires Montgomery and got representation form the office of Jay Z old attorney on the Jay Z stabbing case Bob Khalina. Not Bob himself but some other white attorney and wound up getting the same deal. Kind of seemed like white man's ice is colder thing smh. I do remember Montgomery having a fro hawk style that was common as that era and speaking to the media about the case developments he said "Everybody is fukking snitching" lol.
Montgomery is an experience trial lawyer Got Roc from Hektah Skeletah and Boot Camp Click beat a murder charge. Experienced Criminal Trial lawyer handle big deal cases.
 
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