Some 2012 Album Sales Info (To Date)
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Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Yea I know Rihanna is on the studio track, also this was Taylor concert and she bought out T.I in ATL
So rappers are trying the whole "collab with pop singers" thing, just hasn't popped off yet.
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MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
fukk no I wouldn't care...I'm not knocking him for it...get it how you live....I don't knock a guy like Flo-Rida for catering to the top 40 dance club music crowd (when otherwise he'd be sitting in the bushes with dudes like Brisco) either...my only thing was let's be reality and not pretend like Tech has anything approaching a normal rapper's...mainstream, underground, or whatever else...fanbase
Tech's fanbase didn't matter when Lil Wayne threw him on Carter 4
Tech isn't a normal rapper, normal rappers aint doing 200+ shows a year or doing shows in places where most of the forbes lists of rappers feel they're above doing shows at.
Mr Uncle Leroy
All Star
hip-hop sales in the slumps
What this thread should bring into perspective is:
Several albums have been erroneously labled commercial flops this year. Overall stats this year proves that those albums weren't flops.
Hip Hop is not really in a slump sales wise when comparing Hip Hop sales to Country and crossover Pop stars. When Hip Hop albums were consistently selling 3-5 milion copies and over, there were still acts like Britney Spears, Pop boy bands, and Country singers that were selling 10 million+ like it was nothing.
Several albums have been erroneously labled commercial flops this year. Overall stats this year proves that those albums weren't flops.
Hip Hop is not really in a slump sales wise when comparing Hip Hop sales to Country and crossover Pop stars. When Hip Hop albums were consistently selling 3-5 milion copies and over, there were still acts like Britney Spears, Pop boy bands, and Country singers that were selling 10 million+ like it was nothing.
Dog of those top 5 albums 3 were released last year, 1 is a greatest hits album and 1 is Mumford and Sons they did 3 million with their last album. Same for Justin Bieber last album did 3 something this album is barely plat. Sales are down across the board. Not a single platinum album has been released in 2012.
In fact half of those albums were released in 2011 from Black Keys, Adeles albums, katy perry, lady antebellum and on.
Country is country, they release like 10 major label albums a year and no mixtapes so obviously they all sell.
Bundles together hiphop & rnb is the best selling genre by far about twice as much as #2 rock music. I don't know if they consider pop a genre, but it wasn't included in the report I read. And hiphop was alone the best selling genre in mad years from the mid 90s to mid 2000s, the slight fall off could be that the genre became less interesting, mixtapes or a lot more savvy downloaders.. who knows.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Other genre's fans buy and use itunes/amazon to support their artist. Look at the best sellers on Amazon and iTunes for proof. The fact is that many hiphop fans do not buy albums...that is a fact. I am actually the last of dying breed that actually buys albums of artist. All my boys have the GFID album, I'm the only one that actually bought. Same with other albums I bought like WTT and TM103. They all think I'm crazy. Meanwhile, the white people at my job buy a lot of the albums like Taylor Swift, Mumford and Sons, Adele, etc.
I think there has also been a backlash against hiphop over the years. A lot of white people that listened to hiphop in the 90s and early 2000s have moved on to other genres as they got older. Let's be honest they control music sales. The top songs on the billboard have less hiphop, even R&B artist like Usher have turned pop to improve sales.
I think there has also been a backlash against hiphop over the years. A lot of white people that listened to hiphop in the 90s and early 2000s have moved on to other genres as they got older. Let's be honest they control music sales. The top songs on the billboard have less hiphop, even R&B artist like Usher have turned pop to improve sales.
Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
Lionel Richie dropped this year... and went platinum... this year. You know how he did it? He left old folks R&B alone and went and did country music. Voila, platinum. The man knew what time it was.
And Taylor Swift just did 1.2 million first week. Yet has nowhere NEAR the overall fanfare that Wayne & Gaga did in their heyday. Her singles don't hit #1 . She doesn't collab with everybody. She just sticks to her fanbase which is massive now. Loyalty gets you a long way in music.
But the writing is on the wall. A lot of those white kids are moving on from hip-hop as they get older. Now hip-hop has to incorporate a ridiculous amount of pop appeal in order to sell when back in the day, artists like Snoop, X, Juvenile, Pac sold records just by being real and being edgy to white folks. Now, you gotta rap, sing hooks, and roll with a clique to sell major records.
1. It's Lionels greatest hits, featuring the biggest country artists
Basically wacker versions of his classic songs. It doesn't really matter if he sells more records, the label is gonna take all those moneys and he's not gonna get people hyped for his shows.
2. Taylor Swift has 9 top 10 singles in 4 years,
1 #1 single, which is as many as Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne.
She has 20+ million followers on twitter. And Taylor Swift probably has the youngest fan base of all artists. She, Gaga, Bieber and Nicki Minaj are like the 13-14 year old girls favorite artists.
3. 1 country artist has gone platinum first week in recent memory, 1 rapper has gone plat first week in recent memory. R&B and Rap music since they blend so well these days sells more than twice as much as country does. Why? Cause country has a few artists than do nice numbers, rap and r&b has thousands of cats doing average numbers (2010/2011 numbers).
And despite all that, it's different business models.
Country works in the same way as it always has done, hiphop and other genres have changed and always change from year to year.
Besides most country fans being old retard rednecks and shyt, the thing I don't like about the genre is that most music is weak.
Only a few artists drop anything better than 3 mics, or even get albums with reviews better than 3 mics and these rednecks hype them like they are Marvin Gaye or something.
Young Jeezy, dude sells more than he has followers on twitter
That tells you that his fans are hood as fukk. Probably the only artist, him and country artists
Never seen a laptop in the projects nikka
Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
1. It's Lionels greatest hits, featuring the biggest country artists
Basically wacker versions of his classic songs. It doesn't really matter if he sells more records, the label is gonna take all those moneys and he's not gonna get people hyped for his shows.
2. Taylor Swift has 9 top 10 singles in 4 years,
1 [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] single, which is as many as Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne.
She has 20+ million followers on twitter. And Taylor Swift probably has the youngest fan base of all artists. She, Gaga, Bieber and Nicki Minaj are like the 13-14 year old girls favorite artists.
To your #1 , exactly. Imagine if you had a bunch of R&B artists singing his hits.... you had Miguel, Frank, Trey, Raheem, and a few other doing them... that album would have went triple styrofoam.
That's my point about country music. No matter WHO or WHEN the album drops, people will support it. They may be backwoods cacs that have no clue how to use iTunes, they will buy it. Just like there are black folks who have no clue how to use a regular laptop, but they got Twitter and Instagram on their phone and the phone is full of mixtapes and albums that they ain't about to pay for. We don't respect our culture enough. It's not even just "sell to females" anymore either. Chicks love Future and he'll never touch gold like Plies did. And Plies wasn't that long ago...
To #2 , Taylor Swift gets those chart toppers b/c when her album drops, she sells SO MANY records that if people buy individual songs, that counts towards Billboard on the single chart. She'll have a top 10 hit just off her most popular song being downloaded the first week her album is out. Radio play is just the icing on the cake. That's how popular she is. Wayne and Gaga are not in the same league like that.
They might support but it doesn't explain why hiphop and r&b combined sells more than twice as much as country almost 3 times more.To your #1 , exactly. Imagine if you had a bunch of R&B artists singing his hits.... you had Miguel, Frank, Trey, Raheem, and a few other doing them... that album would have went triple styrofoam.
That's my point about country music. No matter WHO or WHEN the album drops, people will support it. They may be backwoods cacs that have no clue how to use iTunes, they will buy it. Just like there are black folks who have no clue how to use a regular laptop, but they got Twitter and Instagram on their phone and the phone is full of mixtapes and albums that they ain't about to pay for. We don't respect our culture enough. It's not even just "sell to females" anymore either. Chicks love Future and he'll never touch gold like Plies did. And Plies wasn't that long ago...
To #2 , Taylor Swift gets those chart toppers b/c when her album drops, she sells SO MANY records that if people buy individual songs, that counts towards Billboard on the single chart. She'll have a top 10 hit just off her most popular song being downloaded the first week her album is out. Radio play is just the icing on the cake. That's how popular she is. Wayne and Gaga are not in the same league like that.
My theory is that country sales are highly concentrated on certain artists while hiphop and r&b sales are well distributed over loads of artists. If we only had 20 artists to follow, they would all sell a lot more. But we have 1000 artists to follow and out of these artists more than half drop shyt for free. Just a pure guess, but I would think that less than 10% that bought 250k of kendricks album bought Jeezys album and 10% that bought Ross album bought Eminems album and on. While those percentages are probably a lot higher for comparable country artists.
Besides country fans being the least digital fans out. Taylor Swift is more pop than country. The label will always have 1 pop favorite girl whether it's brithey, nsync, backstreet boys, taylor swift, lady gaga, the artist will always exist.
FRIED MASON
Superstar
That bytch Katy Perry is everywhere, she barely passed gold status.