Sohh you telling me a guy that can push planets can't kill a human in a bat mask with one punch?

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Idk why ppl get so hung up on this. Do y'all want a movie or not :heh:?

Whenever I hear that "it's just not realistic" shyt I'm like :dahell: its a comic book character. Y'all want superman to be on his onepunchman shyt so bad. Superman would literally be the most boring hero of alltime if they wrote his powers consistent
But even One Punch Man still has some live ass fights
 

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OP is missing the point.

It's a philosophical debate and Superman DOESN'T WANT TO KILL ANYONE. He didn't even want to kill Zod and is still probably fukked up about it. It ain't about whether he CAN kill Batman, his morality WON'T allow him to..Batman's morality on the other hand has much more grey area, hence the debate.

The avengers have a demi god, a green beast, a man in an iron suit, a genetically enhanced man but they need a woman with a glock to kill aliens.

How the fukk can anyone on captain america's team stand a chance against that jarvis creature stark created.

Where is hulk and thor in all this?

Scarlet Witch in the comics at least is can bang with Vision and would BODY everybody else on #teamstark with EASE. She can literally think nikkas out of existence at her full power. It doesn't seem like it but Ant Man with his power set actually makes him pretty fukking dangerous as well. #teamstark looks stacked as fukk on the surface but I think people will be surprised.

Where is hulk and thor in all this?

Thor has threats to deal with on his home planet. In the comics even when he does come back to earth he decides to stay neutral because this isn't his planet...how can he rightfully come down here as a "god" and start passing judgement when this isn't his home?

Hulk dipped out because Scarlet Witch brought him back to the reality of the situation...he can't control the Hulk...she had more control over the Hulk than he did, that's a problem.
 

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After watching Faora give the beats to an entire squad of Airmen, watching Superman take a shot from an A10 to the face, and having a locomotive dropped on top of him and walk away unscathed, it's gonna take a lot of suspension of disbelief to watch this movie.

You just said you watched a movie where an alien has super strength, can fly and shoot lasers or fought other aliens with super powers, got hit with missiles, had a train dropped on him and walked away fine, but you're gonna have trouble suspending belief:dahell:
 

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wait till a movie comes out in couples days and ask why/how the movie is happening while google is functional brehs:mjlol:
act like we've never seen rich men with gadgets fights superhuman men brehs :francis:
stan cinematic universes brehs:snoop:
 

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First of all...

Batman has already beat Superman before and can hurt him with Kryptonite. It's been done in cartoon movies already

Secondly, Superman isn't that strong at all. Not moving planets, not running at lightspeed, etc.

Like someone said, he's like on Thors strength level (another Alien) the Hulk is theoretically the strongest character yet his punches arent disabling Tony in Hulkbuster Armor. As easy as you guys make it sound.

In fact, I'm guessing the Armored suit is going to be on a level of Ironmans without the flying, shooting, etc.

So it'll most likely be like Iron Man vs. Thor without the hammer, fasers, etc., and that Batman has actual fight training and skills.

Superman still holds back but so does Batman. He could easily load some Krypton in a sniper rifle and headshot dude while he sleeps or some shyt.

It was already done in Batman Contingency plan in the Justice League episode
 

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You just said you watched a movie where an alien has super strength, can fly and shoot lasers or fought other aliens with super powers, got hit with missiles, had a train dropped on him and walked away fine, but you're gonna have trouble suspending belief:dahell:

I don't need my fiction to be realistic, I just need it to be feasible within the confines of its own continuity. That is, if it's established in one film that he's near invincible, don't change the rule in the next film.

Superman being hurt by Batman's punch is infeasible given that we saw him shrug off a depleted uranium shell to the jaw in the first movie.

This isn't that hard to understand.
 
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Can one of y'all please explain to me why the hell Batman and Superman are even fighting one another to begin with, it makes no sense to me...

Like breh said, it's a meditation on the dynamics of power.

Bruce's POV: Superman is an ALIEN with the power to destroy city blocks within a matter of minutes. He shows up, wrecks shyt (even though he's trying to help) and nobody really knows shyt about him. He doesn't trust him or know anything about his intentions and see's the danger in the public worshiping him as a god like figure.

Zod is essentially Superman with bad intent, and he got pretty fukking close to destroying the planet for selfish gain. He has to see what Supes is really bout...and if he isn't an ally, he needs to be stopped, somehow someway.

Clark's POV: Batman is a vigilante...he has rode the fence between taking down criminals and being a criminal himself. Being that he can't knock down buildings with his eyeballs he has to resort to fear tactics. He won't hesitate to intimidate, torture or even kill if necessary to get done what he feels needs to be done...he's more than willing to cross lines that Clark won't.

A lot of people have drawn parallels between Batman and the US government with things like the Patriot act and shyt like waterboarding terrorists. These tactics may work in the short term but once you start crossing those lines how far away are you from being a terrorist yourself?

They have to come to terms with who they are and why they are that way...Superman needs to be shown what weakness feels like so he can understand humanity. Bruce needs to be shown that his tactics often put him on the same level as the people he goes after. Once they get to know each others true motives they'll hug it out.
 

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I don't need my fiction to be realistic, I just need it to be feasible within the confines of its own continuity. That is, if it's established in one film that he's near invincible, don't change the rule in the next film.

Superman being hurt by Batman's punch is infeasible given that we saw him shrug off a depleted uranium shell to the jaw in the first movie.

This isn't that hard to understand.
This would be true...............if there is no kryptonite involved :shaq:
 

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This would be true...............if there is no kryptonite involved :shaq:

That's really the only option they have but I feel like Superman is going to "struggle" to put down Batman for 3/4 of the movie before he levels the playing field with kryptonite and they finally team up.
 
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