Sohh... Roe v. Wade effectively overturned via Texas Abortion Law and SCOTUS

[FAH1223]

Not sure if this is just doom porn but following this thread on the oral arguments happening today and this shyt seems like a wrap already...Roe is dead.

It’s over (@Big Boss) for Roe and Casey. Was really cemented when ACB was confirmed.

 

[Consigliere]

Roe getting killed creates one of the few Democrat bright spots going forward. Especially since they won’t cancel student loan debt in a meaningful way.

Now the white Democratic female base has something substantive to fight on. And it could depress some of the energy on the right since this has been the core issue for a lot do their coalition.

But then again, maybe they just make it illegal for women and minorities to work and vote and we complete the cipher… since no one is stopping them.

 

[LexLuthor]

Welp This Is Partly RBG’s Fault…….

She Resigns When Asked…..Obama Could’ve Filled Her Seat.

If Obama Had Let His Nuts Hang Garland Could’ve Been A Recess Apointment To The Court

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Spoiler

Supreme Court justices sound ready to restrict the right to abortion

Supreme Court’s conservatives justices may have the votes to limit abortion to the first 15 weeks of a pregnancy or overturn Roe vs. Wade entirely.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court's conservatives sounded ready on Wednesday to severely restrict a woman's right to choose abortion and possibly overturn Roe vs. Wade entirely.

An attorney for Mississippi began by arguing the court's abortion rulings "haunt our country" and have "poisoned the law," and most of the six conservative justices appeared to agree during nearly two hours of argument.

"The Constitution is neither pro-life nor pro-choice on abortion," Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh said, summarizing the argument for overturning Roe vs. Wade. He said, the court should not "pick sides on the most contentious social debate in American life."

Justice Amy Coney Barrett said pregnant women who do not want to raise a young child can put the baby up for adoption. If so, she said, the lack of access to abortions should not have a great impact on their lives and careers.

The court has six conservative justices who are skeptical of abortion rights, but only Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. focused on the narrow issue of upholding Mississippi's 15-week ban on abortions.

It is possible that Kavanaugh and Barrett could join him to rule narrowly for Mississippi, but they sounded as though they were prepared to go further and overrule the right to abortion entirely.

The three liberal justices said the court would be making a great mistake to overturn its past rulings.

Kavanaugh said some of the court's greatest rulings had overturned past precedents, including the Brown vs. Board of Education ruling in 1954, which overturned past rulings that upheld racial segregation.

The Mississippi case presents the greatest threat to abortion rights since 1973 because of the changed court. Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. are determined foes of abortion rights, and they have been joined by President Trump's three appointees: Justices Neil M. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett.

If the five vote as a bloc, they could decide the Constitution says nothing about abortion and hold that the decision in Roe was a mistake.

Still pending before the court is an abortion rights challenge to a Texas law that makes it illegal for doctors or clinics to terminate a pregnancy after six weeks. The state itself does not enforce the measure, known as Senate Bill 8. Instead, it authorized private lawsuits against those who violate it. That threat has shut down most abortions in Texas.

In early September, the court by a 5-4 vote refused to block the Texas abortion ban, citing procedural complexities. The justices then heard arguments on Nov. 1 to decide whether federal judges could block Texas courts from enforcing SB 8. The delay in deciding, now extending for three months, has kept the Texas ban in place.

On Wednesday, the Biden administration's Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar joined Julie Rikelman, an attorney for the Center for Reproductive Rights, in urging the court to stand by its precedents and leave the abortion decision in the hands of pregnant women, not the government.

They said that in Roe vs. Wade the court promised that women may choose abortion until about the 24th week of a pregnancy, the time when the fetus may be capable of surviving outside the womb on its own.

They pointed out that the court in 1992 reconsidered the Roe decision but ultimately upheld the right to abortion by a 5-4 vote in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, a Reagan appointee, cast a key vote to preserve the right to abortion. Now, with Kennedy retired, two of his former clerks — Kavanaugh and Gorsuch — could cast the votes to overturn that decision.

 

[ill_will82]

Texas might turn around and finally turn blue in 2022 & 2024. Them politicians down there have been doing any and everything to take away their citizens rights whether it be voting or reproductive.

 

[mastermind]

Texas might turn around and finally turn blue in 2022 & 2024. Them politicians down there have been doing any and everything to take away their citizens rights whether it be voting or reproductive.

That’s not happening. It’s the most gerrymandered state in America. The only slight “hope” is a democratic governor.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It’s 1876 right now.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We don’t have civil rights laws. We have court cases. Gay marriage is next.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[ill_will82]

That’s not happening. It’s the most gerrymandered state in America. The only slight “hope” is a democratic governor.

That's what I mean. Republicans doing so much crazy shyt down there Abbott might fukk around and get voted out.

 

[storyteller]

While reading up some of the lighter material about what's going down (torts stuff is usually dense), I stumbled on this story about a judge who sounds...pretty damned on point.
The Judge Who Told the Truth About the Mississippi Abortion Ban

Of all the arguments that animate the anti-abortion cause, two stand out as particularly far-fetched: that banning abortion protects women’s health and shields African Americans from genocide. Yet for years, these arguments have driven debates over state laws, served as justifications for court decisions upholding those laws, and even appeared on billboards warning women in predominantly Black communities not to kill their babies. Three years ago, Mississippi lawmakers prohibited almost all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy to save women, they said, from serious “medical, emotional, and psychological” damage.

It has taken a federal judge to call out these claims for what they surely are: “pure gaslighting.”

On Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, likely the most consequential abortion case in three decades. The case began as a challenge to the Mississippi abortion ban, and in 2018 landed before Carlton Reeves, an African American judge whose legal opinions—especially this one—are rich in history and disarmingly honest. Reeves struck down the law, as precedents like the 1973 landmark abortion decision, Roe v. Wade, compelled him to do, but then lambasted the Mississippi legislature for trying to justify the ban with reasons that he believed were transparently dishonest.

“Its leaders are proud to challenge Roe,” he wrote, “but choose not to lift a finger to address the tragedies lurking on the other side of the delivery room.” I spoke with Reeves recently, and his opinions out of court are as candid as the ones he delivers from chambers and the bench. “Judges are heroes,” he told me. “But for them I would not be in the position that I am or had the experiences that I did. They have the capacity to breathe life into our rights.”

Almost any opinion on abortion would have attracted national attention, yet Reeves’s opinion has stirred a striking amount of controversy at every step of the Dobbs case’s journey. It has drawn an appeals-court rebuke as “deeply disquieting” and a legal brief from 18 states urging the Supreme Court to “condemn” the judge’s “rhetoric.” That rhetoric, though, has put before the justices issues that could shape the outcome of Dobbs, the fate of Roe, the response of states to the Supreme Court’s ruling, and the struggle between judges and legislators to determine the law of the land.

Under current law, Dobbs is an easy case. In Roe and, almost two decades later, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the Court ruled that states cannot ban abortions before “viability” of the fetus—about 23 to 24 weeks—making Mississippi’s 15-week cutoff clearly unconstitutional. Reeves ruled as much and then asked an obvious question: “So, why are we here?”

Rejecting sophistry from the state’s legislators that the ban wasn’t really a “ban,” Reeves revealed the truth as he saw it: The state passed a law “it knew was unconstitutional to endorse a decades-long campaign … to ask the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade.” He then scolded the lawmakers for pretending to care about women’s health and the well-being of the unborn and people of color while having the nation’s highest infant-mortality rate, tolerating “alarming” poverty and maternal-death rates, and curtailing health-care programs such as Medicaid. He accused legislators of perpetuating “the old Mississippi,” the one that didn’t allow women to serve on juries until 1968, the one that systematically sterilized Black women—getting a “Mississippi appendectomy,” it was called—and the one that, in 1984, became the last state to guarantee women the right to vote. He recounted Mississippi’s long history of denying its citizens’ constitutional rights with segregated schools, prohibitions on same-sex marriage, and a “secret intelligence arm” that enforced racial discrimination. Far from helping women and minorities, Reeves wrote, the state still seemed “bent on controlling” them.

Few federal judges, if any, have ever said such things, not in an opinion and not with that kind of scathing bluntness. That Reeves said them—that he drew on Mississippi’s heartbreaking history to call out its hypocrisy—is at once remarkable and unsurprising. He has done it time and again, in striking down Mississippi’s gay-marriage ban, in explaining why a Black man could not sue cops over a horrific traffic stop, in sentencing white teenagers who drove their pickup over a gay African American until he was dead. He does it because of who he is and where he is from.

There's more but it won't all fit. Definitely worth a read though as it gets more into the current case and implications of arguments being heard which Reeves pointed out as pretty disingenuous even at face-value.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[the cac mamba]

i dont know if it will end up being the end-all be-all disaster it sounds like on the surface

first off, it doesn't actually make abortion illegal. it will still be legal in every blue state, and im sure there will be nationwide charities set up to help women get to a clinic. no better opportunity for hollywood liberal activism. frankly, it probably might get more accessible for some people

because minus texas, the only states that are really gonna make it illegal are dark red shytholes like mississippi and alabama, where there are like 2 abortion clinics anyway

im pro choice, just trying to look at this rationally. plus, this is even if the SCOTUS has the balls to do it. this is 2021, these judges are pretty well known national figures. amy covid barrett still has to go to the supermarket and shyt

not to mention that this would be probably the biggest possible midterm gift the dems could get and it wouldnt just be 22. republicans will have to constantly answer for this nationally. it will be a poison issue for republicans in the swing states

 

[Yinny]

Welp This Is Partly RBG’s Fault…….

She Resigns When Asked…..Obama Could’ve Filled Her Seat.

If Obama Had Let His Nuts Hang Garland Could’ve Been A Recess Apointment To The Court

It is not, Breyer should have gone. She was of sound mind and faculties at the time of her death. Look at their voting records.

 

[88m3]

this is what the accelerationists on the "left" wanted, they'll gut what's left of the civil rights act next