Breh denial is not just a river in Egypt...I'm a Holyfield stan....i reasoned ruiz, byrd, and toney losses as at least they were to "top" fighters...the loss to a nikka known more for catching a bare knuckles 2 piece by bowe than any of his wins..that did itIt took you all the way up until the Donald fight to convince you Holy was on the slide?
Breh denial is not just a river in Egypt...I'm a Holyfield stan....i reasoned ruiz, byrd, and toney losses as at least they were to "top" fighters...the loss to a nikka known more for catching a bare knuckles 2 piece by bowe than any of his wins..that did it
Failing to beat Ruiz clearly in 3 back to back tries should've been the time when @Big Boss got that alert from @patscorpio in his mentions.
Calling Roy top 50 sounds incredibly insulting.Real Talk
Roy didn't really have a lot of popular names in his divisions or surrounding them like Tito, Oscar, Holy, Tyson, etc....
Especially when he went to light heavyweight. Most of the cats he fought were decent but had little to no following. It takes 2 names to make big fights.
Oscar and Tito weren't more dominant or skilled than Roy, but there dance partners were more interesting and had bigger names. I mean compare guys like Quartey, Sweet Pea, Vargas, to cats like Clinton Woods, Eric Harding, and Lou DeValle. Its like night and day. Does guys werent bums, but still.
Roy still a top 50 ATG though, but it is what it is.
Calling Roy top 50 sounds incredibly insulting.
Roy should have stayed at heavyweight and just took it one fight at a time.
The Chris Bryd fight was right there! That's what makes this shyt fukking stupid. Jones had the WBA title. Byrd had the IBF.
Nygga, you had a unification fight, at the heavyweight division, against a smaller light punching heavyweight. What more could you ask for? It was THE perfect fight.
If he would have just went to heavy, won the WBA, & won a unification matched for the IBF and bowed out it would have been perfect.
Lennox had the WBC. No one really looked at that as a realistic fight Roy would actually take.
There where rumors of a unification fight against Corrie Sanders, the WBO champion at the time. I didn't like that fight for Jones at ALL, and this before I knew about Jones' chin issues. Corrie was known as a lazy hot and cold fighter, but if you watched him fight back then, you could really see glimpses of his talent. He would have been highly motivated for a Jones fight, just like he was for both Klitchko fights.
nikka I aint say where in the top 50.
He's prolly somewhere in the 30 range or some shyt, but I dont' have time to seriously evaluate his career to the point where Im accurately ranking him in ATG lists. That takes time and just randomly saying he's top 10 or some shyt is disrespecting all the greats that came before Roy. There lots of things that have to be considered when making ATG lists.
Boxing has a long storied history filled with awesome fighters. Just to be mentioned in the top 50 is a blessing in itself. Me saying he top 50 all time covers that shyt. It's like a ballpark figure. You acting like I said he top 500 or some shyt.
We legit don't know that. Roy just didn't get hit a lot at LHW until he slowed down.Roy didn't have any chin issues till he moved back down in weight bro