So why do you guys think so much focus is put on Slavery in the USA

[WaveGang]

@Blackking I could decipher your post paragraph by paragraph, but I don't feel we should be focusing on what we disagree on. Our goal appears the be the same

so imma dap that

 

[Primetime21]

We can read and understand the social situations in Bolivia, Brazil, etc... that's all good... but we need to understand that each of those nations have unique, but similar histories... They focus on their issues first... focus on the diaspora second.

Very good post I just wanted to comment on this particular part. Based on what I've researched, contrary to posters who try to paint all of Latin America with the Dominican brush, alot of Black people in Latin America do in fact identity with the greater African diaspora. Hell most of em are using the African American experience as their own blueprint for better standard of living, more social mobility, greater access to education, etc. We sometimes fail to remember all the letters of support from student groups internationally that gave us greater visibility in this country. Despite all the bs that comes from living here we're still in a position of priviledge relative to many Black people living in other countries in this side of the world, and one could say we have a duty to help them too.

 

[DEAD7]

Latin America slaves were expected to grow their own food and care for themselves.

On the surface this seems worse, but the dependency on the master instilled in American slaves did far more damage long term.

I think you guys are comparing physical hardships, when its the mental and social implications that run deeper.

 

[Blackking]

Very good post I just wanted to comment on this particular part. Based on what I've researched, contrary to posters who try to paint all of Latin America with the Dominican brush, alot of Black people in Latin America do in fact identity with the greater African diaspora. Hell most of em are using the African American experience as their own blueprint for better standard of living, more social mobility, greater access to education, etc. We sometimes fail to remember all the letters of support from student groups internationally that gave us greater visibility in this country. Despite all the bs that comes from living here we're still in a position of priviledge relative to many Black people living in other countries in this side of the world, and one could say we have a duty to help them too.

I agree that we have a duty. We have the most ability. However, mentally.... we have this post below.... so the global effects of mental brainwashing for our diaspora has it's own checks and balances to keep things 'in line'.

Latin America slaves were expected to grow their own food and care for themselves.

On the surface this seems worse, but the dependency on the master instilled in American slaves did far more damage long term.

I think you guys are comparing physical hardships, when its the mental and social implications that run deeper.

 

[Primetime21]

Latin America slaves were expected to grow their own food and care for themselves.

You have to specify the country. This isnt true for every or even most countries in Latin America.

 

[DEAD7]

Jamaican plantations made more for the british empire than the whole of South America, the Carribbean and North America combined. And you know how tiny Jamaica is

Plus considering how much limelight is put on slavery in America, please inform us about how much you know about slavery in Suriname, Trinidad, Peru etc... no? I rest my case


LMAOOOOO so you think us brought to Jamaica were allowed to keep our culture? you think I don't have a slave masters name

you do realise the majority of sugar plantations where in the Carribbean and South America right? hence why the most slaves were sent there right.

In all intellectual honesty do you honestly believe what you're saying in this post?




I'm not sure where you gathered this misinformation from, but splitting up of families was a common slave practive all over the new world.

Blacks were objects in all the slave colonies hombre, in the carribbean n south america where the main focus on production was, slaves were worked harder and more fiercly.



No, this is a worldwide thing. I know Many Jamaicans who think slavery only happened in America, even in brazil the black people there don't class themselves as african because they've never heard of the slave trade.

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I have to say, these responses did surprise me. In hindsight I can't look down upon others for not being as knowledgeable on the subject as myself, but some of these posts were damn right ignorant.

Colored on colored slavery is never going to be looked at in the same light. There isnt the same racial tension and resentment.

Its simply a power issue at that point.

Comparing that to "the land of the free" where you weren't free based purely on your skin pigment... you're talking apples and oranges.

The racial tension that still exist in this country towards blacks is almost non existent in Jamaica. You're missing the point.

 

[WaveGang]

Colored on colored slavery is never going to be looked at in the same light. There isnt the same racial tension and resentment.

Its simply a power issue at that point.

Comparing that to "the land of the free" where you weren't free based purely on your skin pigment... you're talking apples and oranges.

The racial tension that still exist in this country towards blacks is almost non existent in Jamaica. You're missing the point.

Take it from someone who lived in JA for 8years

My sig rings true every day

 

[DEAD7]

Take it from someone who lived in JA for 8years

My sig rings true every day

Fair, enough, but the injection of racism changes the conversation IMHO.

 

[WaveGang]

Judging by the responses itt, it has made me draw another conclusion on this matter.

You see how we are "First world negroes", in comparison with all our brothers around the globe we're in the elite. i.e. education wise, living standards etc etc

So we possess the power, and the tools to establish unity of Africans worldwide

But this notion of we had it hard (the hardest) etc, has been planted inside us to invoke the discredit of our brothers worldwide, to further remove us from unity.

And it seems like its worked

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Judging by the responses itt, it has made me draw another conclusion on this matter.

You see how we are "First world negroes", in comparison with all our brothers around the globe we're in the elite. i.e. education wise, living standards etc etc

So we possess the power, and the tools to establish unity of Africans worldwide

But this notion of we had it hard (the hardest) etc, has been planted inside us to invoke the discredit of our brothers worldwide, to further remove us from unity.

And it seems like its worked

Of course it has. Not only are we currently dependent on the power structure that we so call despise, we ironically have America's arrogance when it comes to thinking we're the best of the best when it comes to African descendants...

Most American blacks will thumb their nose at any other black from another country, including West\South Africa...

We cannot have this elitist attitude amongst us if we plan on making a global connection.

Pan Africanism looks like our only hope to generate enough capital\resources to eventually embark on running our own country without Western influence

 

[DEAD7]

The elitist attitude is American, not black or white I assure you.

Plain ol' American elitism.

 

[RAX 010]

Wachovia apologizes for ties to slavery - Jun. 2, 2005

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Wachovia Corporation has apologized for its ties to slavery after disclosing that two of its historical predecessors owned slaves and accepted them as payment. (2005)

and theres plenty where that came from


WE NEED OUR REPARATIONS ASAP!!!!

 

[RAX 010]

So far, the reparations legal team has publicly identified five companies it says have slave ties: insurers Aetna, New York Life and AIG and financial giants J.P. Morgan Chase Manhattan Bank and FleetBoston Financial Group.

Investment banks Brown Bros. Harriman and Lehman Bros.

Railroads Norfolk Southern, CSX, Union Pacific and Canadian National.

Textile maker WestPoint Stevens.

Newspaper publishers Knight Ridder, Tribune, Media General, Advance Publications, E.W. Scripps and Gannett, parent and publisher of USA TODAY.

1850
The Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac Railroad, part of CSX today, paid slave owners $30 to $150 apiece to rent slaves for a year.
Price in 1850: $150
In today's dollars: $3,379

1856
The Mobile & Girard, now part of Norfolk Southern, offered slaveholders $180 apiece for slaves they would rent to the railroad for one year.
1856: $180
Today: $3,737

1859
The Central of Georgia, a Norfolk Southern line today, valued its slaves at $31,303.
1859: $31,303
Today: $663,033

1865
The Nashville & Chattanooga Railroad, today part of CSX, placed a value of $128,773 on the slaves it lost as a result of emancipation at the conclusion of the Civil War.
1865: $128,773
Today: $1.4 million

1865
The Mobile & Ohio, now part of Canadian National, valued slaves lost to the war and emancipation at $199,691.
1865: $199,691
Today: $2.2 million

Sources: Economic History Services, USA TODAY research

 

[LionofJudah]

Joel 3:6-7

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.

7 Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head:

 

[Shogun]

Blacks were in South America and Mexico even California wayy before slavery.
Goes to show how powerful they were in making us subhhuman and non factor in the world.

I just wish they admit the shyt (Slavers) because their ancestors admitted it.

the thing is, the majority of white people in America don't have slave-owning ancestry.