So who will win the GOP civil war?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Which side will be the more prominent face of the GOP say by 2016? Will they still insist on placating all the nuts in their base, or will they start to join the rest of us in sanity and modernity?

Fault lines are being drawn. Today Bobby Jindal said the GOP needs to stop being the "stupid party." I think every Republican strategist and operative knows this to be true, but the problem is their base and punditry (who wield way too much power) are out of control. They can't seem to stop repelling everyone else and primarying Repub candidates with lunatics and winning, only to lose the general election.

 

[zerozero]

social and foreign policy conservatives will lose. big business conservatives will win. that's who it's always been about in the end.

 

[atlbound]

It will be an uphill battle for the moderates, and the base has only gotten more bitter and nutty after losing....they havent learned a thing from the loss.

I hate to say it but the hardcore is still firmly in control and they wont learn until they loose they next 2 or 3 elections.

A lost few decades coming up for the repubs.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

A win for big business is a win for the American people in theory because the average american relies on large corporations for employment. Without these large corporations they feel lost. A lot of friends arent ready to realize that corporation domination is an acceptable reality for many americans as long as they have employment.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

social and foreign policy conservatives will lose. big business conservatives will win. that's who it's always been about in the end.

Yeah I figured that. There will never be another social conservative President. But the politics of it is not just about issue stances, it's about demeanor, rhetoric, associations, and stubbornness vs. willingness to compromise.

John Huntsman's policy platform was pretty much no different than the rest of the GOP candidates. He just wasn't saying he'll go to the inner city and tell people to get jobs and get off food stamps, encouraging secession, calling Spanish the language if the ghetto, calling Obama a Kenyan anti-colonialist marxist, denying evolution and climate change, trying to nuance rape, embracing the ugliest elements of the right wing base, and calling legislative compromise on anything almost tantamount to treason.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Ill tell you whose gonna win. The moderates (why the quotations?) and the American people.

The extremists torpedoed McCain in 08, and Romney "the severe conservative" cowered to them again this time to his own peril. Enough is enough, and thank God people are beginning to wake the fukk up.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

john mccain was right, the extremists are going to destroy their party.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

A win for big business is a win for the American people in theory because the average american relies on large corporations for employment. Without these large corporations they feel lost. A lot of friends arent ready to realize that corporation domination is an acceptable reality for many americans as long as they have employment.

corporations only employ 30% of americans. Its small business where job growth happens. I don't hate corporations but you're statement is misleading.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

corporations only employ 30% of americans. Its small business where job growth happens. I don't hate corporations but you're statement is misleading.

Thats why i used the word, theory, so it wouldnt mislead you. That is the perception and perception, is reality. If they employ 30 percent and under 10 percent of Americans are unemployed, i think you can see where a friends mind could take him. Corporations had the most publicized layoffs and media are where most people get their information about the climate of the country.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Ill tell you whose gonna win. The moderates (why the quotations?) and the American people.

The extremists torpedoed McCain in 08, and Romney "the severe conservative" cowered to them again this time to his own peril. Enough is enough, and thank God people are beginning to wake the fukk up.

The quotations are because I don't see any moderates in the GOP right now except Chris Christie. Even someone like Huntsman has the exact same major policy positions as every other GOP candidates. He's just doesn't believe compromise is a cardinal sin and doesn't believe crazy shyt like climate change is a hoax.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Thats why i used the word, theory, so it wouldnt mislead you. That is the perception and perception, is reality. If they employ 30 percent and under 10 percent of Americans are unemployed, i think you can see where a friends mind could take him. Corporations had the most publicized layoffs and media are where most people get their information about the climate of the country.

got it. I misunderstood what you meant.

 

[88m3]

Democrats

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Democrats. The social conservatives are pretty much unwilling to bend knees, the foreign policy ones are becoming increasingly disliked and irrelevant, and most of the fiscal conservatives are going to be split between the big business neocons and the libertarian party who i think is poised to capture a percentage of the younger vote. They're just going to fragment, and I don't see that swaying more americans toward a conservative viewpoint or helping the biggest guy left over after the vote gets splintered. meanwhile the dems are doing a pretty good job of capturing moderates and letting the GOP throw themselves in the bushes while quietly pushing state initiatives.

The GOP in America is not going to die a violent, fast death but a long slow one.

 

[L.S.]

Bobby Jindal speaks out: Jindal: End 'dumbed-down conservatism'

 

[Darth Nubian]

Moderates. They are going to dump the social conservatives, promote a faux fiscal conservative platform and steal the young and educated vote from the dems. All they need is a charasmatic young Rep from an urban area with a track record of pragmatic policy and bipartisanship.