So what will it take for people to FINALLY stand up to government corruption/incompetence?

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If somehow elec,internet ,water, utilities and starbucks/mccdonalds get shut down theeeen ppl will prolly lose their shyt and unite :laugh:
 

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the US is losing cause there is no such thing as america anymore. the ppl on tv dont represent the ppl. they're paid millions of dollars and don't relate to the ppl. if they did they'd be outraged by what's going on. if they did like the direction glen beck was headed they're considered to be jeopardizing national security.

we're busy watching football, playing grand theft auto, watching american idol, love & hiphop, going to the clubs thinking everything's fine.
this govt shut down should've been a cue to set things off...

To be honest, there's never been a US where the citizens are fully involved in what the government/CEOs are doing. There's always been exposures and scandals but never been any tangible changes so all the technological era has provided is a new way to avoid reality.
 

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America's a business. It always has been. It's not a "government" the way one thinks of a government.

If you have a shytty job, look around you right now. Nobody overthrows their boss(es). They either get fired or quit.

We're all employees of America. And deep down, we know it.
 
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America's a business. It always has been. It's not a "government" the way one thinks of a government.

If you have a shytty job, look around you right now. Nobody overthrows their boss(es). They either get fired or quit.

We're all employees of America. And deep down, we know it.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
 

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i agree, a draft. i would never, EVER fight for this fukkin country. not until the people votin to send us to war allocate one member each from their family (word to jesse ventura :jawalrus:)
 

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Unemployment rising to 20%.
Shutting the internet down.
A natural disaster or crisis bigger than Katrina; clean water shortage, manhattan getting hit by a category a category 4 hurricane.
 
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Sad thing is the only thing people can agree on in this country is the fear of losing their guns. Everything else we are too divided in the country by social, political and economic viewpoints and lifestyles.
 

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under my feet.


unemployment is over 20%. you've just been seduced by the media and made up govt statistics to distract you from what's really going on.

And maybe im too literal sometimes, but i mean the actual published number being 20%.

I know whats going on, but until we reach depression levels of unemployment nothing will change. Which...:mjpls:...oddly enough, i think is coming.
 

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Could have happened in 2008 if we had real leadership that had no ties to big business.

We should have let all those institutions fail and the economy slump into a depression. That would have reminded people what greed and corruption is capable of.

Instead, we put a band-aid on it and continued doing the same thing.

We'll have to wait until the next time the consequences of greed cannot be contained by the greedy. Hopefully we'll have people in power that understand that short term suffering is worth long term progress.
 

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People have to feel completely economically and politically marginalized before they will take up arms. When an Obama or Hilary is elected, people mistakenly think they are represented in government. Meanwhile the rich, corporations and politicians stay cashing in. People get the new iPhone and think they are :win:. But as the US labor market becomes less and less competitive and the middle class in other countries surpass us, maybe we will think again. Maybe.
 
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