So what exactly constitutes a Movie as "Horror?" Let's debate and define.

[Jello Biafra]

Hasn't he been trying to get that funded for years though?

He has and in all honesty, speaking strictly from a business standpoint (which I hate but we gotta think about that end when it comes to certain things) doing a mountains of madness flick the way it should be done with the budget it needs, that's a tough sell for any studio. It's gotta be at least a 90-100 million dollar R rated flick and this ain't the 90s anymore where you could have something like T2 be made for that much money and be a hit and part of the reason it was made for that much was because of Arnold's star power and the studio marketed the flick to kids (I had a couple T2 toys) and I don't know if studios would do that anymore. Hell, I don't know if parents would go for that

Legendary has already agreed to fund it as long as Del Toro can make it PG-13 but I figure del Toro can work some magic and try to push the limits of that rating. Or maybe even convince Legendary to ease the fukk up and let it be R-rated.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Legendary has already agreed to fund it as long as Del Toro can make it PG-13 but I figure del Toro can work some magic and try to push the limits of that rating. Or maybe even convince Legendary to ease the fukk up and let it be R-rated.

How much tho?

 

[BlackMajik]

Difference between a horror movie and a thriller

From: http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_thriller_movie_and_a_horror_movie

A thriller is more interested in suspense, putting you "on the edge of your seat" or in plain terms, making you nervous for the fate of the characters. A horror movie wants to make you fear for your personal safety, to make you afraid that what happened to the characters may happen to you even after you've left the theater.
As a good horror movie often contains a great deal of suspense and as a good thriller can be pretty scary in spots it's more down to the intentions of the film maker and the subject matter of the film. Hitchcock is regarded as a suspense director but his films Psycho and The Birds are more correctly classified as horror films because they deal with horrific subject matter and their intention is to terrify, not make you nervous about the fate of the on-screen characters. Hitchcock's film North By Northwest has a terrifically suspenseful ending but it is not particularly horrific in that it is not specifically designed to scare you into thinking you may fall off Washington's nose on your next visit to Mount Rushmore.
Since the 80's film makers who somehow feel making a horror film is beneath them have often described their films as "thrillers" when they are actually horror films further blurring the difference between the two styles.

Glad u posted this cuz sum folks don't know the difference

For example I consider Jacob's Ladder a thriller with some horror elements

 

[HHR]

Glad u posted this cuz sum folks don't know the difference

For example I consider Jacob's Ladder a thriller with some horror elements

The problem is that in many cases there isn't a difference.

Nothing about Rosemary's Baby makes me fear for my personal safety. Neither does The Exorcist. But those are CLEARLY more horror than suspense...and The Exorcist it isn't really suspense at all.

That's why, the more I think about it, the imagery/sound design is every bit as important, if not more so, than the content of a horror film....at least when discussing the differences between it and suspense.

It really is a case-by-case basis, and there are some films that trend so far into either genre that it's essentially impossible to consider them solely one or the other. I think Psycho is the perfect example of this kind of film. It's impossible to categorize as one or the other.

 

[SlowPaceThrillah]

The problem is that in many cases there isn't a difference.

Nothing about Rosemary's Baby makes me fear for my personal safety. Neither does The Exorcist. But those are CLEARLY more horror than suspense...and The Exorcist it isn't really suspense at all.

That's why, the more I think about it, the imagery/sound design is every bit as important, if not more so, than the content of a horror film....at least when discussing the differences between it and suspense.

It really is a case-by-case basis, and there are some films that trend so far into either genre that it's essentially impossible to consider them solely one or the other. I think Psycho is the perfect example of this kind of film. It's impossible to categorize as one or the other.

So it might not be an unreasonable distinction to say that a suspense film wrings the tension from the story whereas a horror film draws tension from what's immediately on-screen

 

[MartyMcFly]

So it might not be an unreasonable distinction to say that a suspense film wrings the tension from the story whereas a horror film draws tension from what's immediately on-screen

I think horror can do that too. In halloween, a lot of the tension comes from seeing Michael, seeing him disappear and just knowing he's there. Knowing he's lurking somewhere ready to get you

 

[SlowPaceThrillah]

I think horror can do that too. In halloween, a lot of the tension comes from seeing Michael, seeing him disappear and just knowing he's there. Knowing he's lurking somewhere ready to get you

True, but what you're afraid of is seeing Michael pop up and do his thing again, as an audience member, more than you're afraid for Jamie Lee Curtis' wellbeing. You're not so much worried as what is going to happen to her as for what he's about to do to other people

 

[kp404]

So it might not be an unreasonable distinction to say that a suspense film wrings the tension from the story whereas a horror film draws tension from what's immediately on-screen

:pacino:Now we are getting close to a real definition right here :stevieyea:

 

[MartyMcFly]

True, but what you're afraid of is seeing Michael pop up and do his thing again, as an audience member, more than you're afraid for Jamie Lee Curtis' wellbeing. You're not so much worried as what is going to happen to her as for what he's about to do to other people

Hm..I agree with that to a point but personally, I was involved in her story when I was a kid. I was afraid of him but I was also afraid of what he'd do to her because during the last few mins of that movie when it's just Michael hunting her down, shyt gets insane

 

[MartyMcFly]

Then you have a movie like the thing where you're afraid of what's on screen and what's not on screen because you don't know who's the thing and who's real.

 

[FlyRy]

Is Rosemary's Baby scary?

It's undeniably creepy and makes you feel uncomfortable, but I don't think it's even meant to really scare the viewer.

But I'd definitely consider it a horror film in spite of that.

rosemary's baby felt more like a thriller to me until maybe the last 5-10 min.

the theme song was horror ish but that's really about it

imdb classifies it as drama/ horror/Mystery

 

[MartyMcFly]

rosemary's baby felt more like a thriller to me until maybe the last 5-10 min.

the theme song was horror ish but that's really about it

imdb classifies it as drama/ horror/Mystery

Word? I never knew that. I always assumed it was classified as horror because every horror fan claims it

 

[SlowPaceThrillah]

:pacino:Now we are getting close to a real definition right here :stevieyea:

There's something to be said for posting

Hm..I agree with that to a point but personally, I was involved in her story when I was a kid. I was afraid of him but I was also afraid of what he'd do to her because during the last few mins of that movie when it's just Michael hunting her down, shyt gets insane

Right, I felt the same too (that film had me literally checking behind curtains when I tried to go to bed after I first saw it ) but mostly like all these horror heroes she functions as a pair of eyes and a proxy character that the director encourages the audience to fill their shoes. That's obviously going to be the case with 99% of lead characters in Hollywood films but none I think are trying to put your senses in place of theirs like horror films do...

 

[NobodyReally]

True, but what you're afraid of is seeing Michael pop up and do his thing again, as an audience member, more than you're afraid for Jamie Lee Curtis' wellbeing. You're not so much worried as what is going to happen to her as for what he's about to do to other people

The definition being used to distinguish the two genres isn't working for me. I was invested in Jamie Lee Curtis' well-being in Halloween. And I may not be invested in any of the characters in a so-called thriller, but the tension I feel while watching some of those movies is from the heinous nature of the crimes and from the fear that someone like main villain could exist in real life. This is why I classify Silence of the Lambs and The Hitcher as horror flicks. The idea that Hannibal or the psycho hitchhiker guy could actually do what they do to people is enough to produce tension, a part from my investment in the other characters.

 

[MartyMcFly]

The definition being used to distinguish the two genres isn't working for me. I was invested in Jamie Lee Curtis' well-being in Halloween. And I may not be invested in any of the characters in a so-called thriller, but the tension I feel while watching some of those movies is from the heinous nature of the crimes and from the fear that someone like main villain could exist in real life. This is why I classify Silence of the Lambs and The Hitcher as horror flicks. The idea that Hannibal or the psycho hitchhiker guy could actually do what they do to people is enough to produce tension, a part from my investment in the other characters.

Yeah I agree. Now Fatal Attraction is a thriller to me with horror aspects but The Hitcher and Lambs are horror flicks to me because these are real people who in theory could actually do this stuff. Jason isn't real Freddy isn't real, but Lecter could be real and the hitcher could be real. It's psychological horror