I dont believe for a second the redwings arent cash flow green to the nhl.
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So We not talmbout the NHL lockout
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I dont believe for a second the redwings arent cash flow green to the nhl.
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I had no idea Matteau was American until recently. He plays for my local QMJHL team and I've seen some of his interviews, dude speaks perfect French with no accent.
SmoothOperator88
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He was born in Chicago when his pops (fukk that guy by the way) was playing at the time and I think raised in Quebec. He chose to be in the U.S. National Team Development Program which also means he chose to represent the U.S. in international play.
Players share a good amount of blame too.
You cant be serious ?
They are locked out they are making all the concessions cuz the dumbass owners in this league cant control themselves...players are willing to go from 57 to 50/50 how do they take ANY blame...
Exaggeration but its only about 8 teams that keep the league afloat...
Players were bitter from the last lockout which is why they got Fehr. They wanted a lockout it's clear as day to see.
Doesnt change the fact they are making all the concessions with contracts,free agency and revenue sharing and all because the owners fcked up signing these 12 year contracts and contracts too large for a small revenue league to absorb...
SmoothOperator88
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But owners are the ones who initiated the lockout. They're the ones who looked at the NBA and the NFL and said why not us. And the players have done all of the moving. The owners are going to win at the end it's just by how much. The players rightfully so are trying to protect what's contractually owed to them.
Fehr is there to make sure the players don't break and get don't get raped again like they did last lockout and don't act like they didn't.
not really
you do know only like 9 nhl teams are actually making money year after year, and 6 are cdn teams.
both the players and owners are greedy and they lost so much money because of this, and please regarding fehr
goodenow never broke as well, the nhl model is broken
SmoothOperator88
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A big question I'd have if I was in the room is define Hockey related revenue. Just because the "team" isn't making money doesn't mean the owners are losing money because they own the team (ex. Florida). That aside I disagree that the model is broken and that substantial changes that required this long of a lockout needed to be made. I agree that contract term limits are needed but really there's going to be a cycle of work stoppages unless the league has substantial revenue sharing and can market its players better. The last lockout was needed but this one is setting a very dangerous precedent. No matter what financial security the owners think they may be getting this time makes it worth the damage the lockout is doing to the league in my eyes. Let's say they lose a year. I doubt the league can recover from that because overall the NHL is not popular enough.
I think the deal will get done because both sides aren't that stupid to let the season go down the drain.
LOL @ "making all the concessions". The NHLPA was raping the league for decades and almost ran the league into the ground. The player/league share should be at least 50/50. There is no other league where players take home a bigger piece of the pie. The players are highly delusional. The NHL is a fringe sport yet players act as if there's all this money to pass around with no big TV deal like the other sports. How is the average player making 2.5M?
The owners fukked up with those contracts, but it's not like the players knew what they were doing. Agents are not dumb. They also knew about the impending lockout and I have no doubt the deals they asked for had this in mind.
Regardless of the owners being dumb, the NHL had to stop the gravy train. The cap kept going up (benefiting players) but the league wasn't really making much $$$.
My main issue with the PA has been the negotiating process. They get what they want, then send counter offers asking for other shyt. Fehr is a cocksucker and the players knew what they were doing when they got him. Brandon Prust has a $10M contract yet the players are crying. The league is broken.
The players did not get raped last CBA. A Cap was needed period. They still took home a bigger piece of the pie than any other league. The cap went up big time and so did the floor. The average salary has gone up greatly. The league's health had improved as well. The only thing they got fukked on was the rollback. They also lost an entire year's salary over nothing...which is what they're pretty much doing now. You think the players will get a better deal? Yea right.
I really question if the players even care about the league. Seems like they want to pad their pockets and could care less if the league crumbles. fukk them.
at least some hockey is on tv with juniors going on
SmoothOperator88
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See I disagree with you and agree with you. The players got raped in a sense of where they were to where they ended up. They still made out well though because they owners did not cover their tracks. That being said what was done needed to be done in 04.
I view this lockout differently and what the owners are trying to do I feel is setting a dangerous precedent as far as when there's a problem with the league take from the players instead of fixing the fundamental issues. Everyone knows the endgame is 50/50 and it seems like both sides have agreed to it. All the contract limits and stuff like that is fluff in my opinion. If revenue sharing and the process of getting to 50/50 without another rollback could be agreed upon this lockout would've be long over. There's clear mistrust on both sides but they're too close NOT to get a deal done. You seem to disagree, but I believe both sides want to get a deal done. However, both sides don't want to move because of that aforementioned mistrust. The players don't trust Bettman and the owners don't want to deal with Fehr.
This lockout is stupid and should've never happened for a variety of reasons. Bettman won't be fired but he's been a hindrance on this whole process. Fehr's doing his job (which is getting the best deal possible for them) but he's hurting PR. The thing I ask you is what are the players exactly at fault for? That's what I don't get.