So we gon act like Roy Jones didn't tie Marciano's record?
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mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
there is a reason why, even with that record, Marciano is not considered a top 5 heavyweight.Marciano's record should be taken with a grain of salt
-fought a lot of guys with terrible, terrible records
-fought great fighters past their prime
-only had 6 title defenses(in comparison to other greats)
He was smart...went out on top
Still can't deny it's a great accomplishment.
Larry holmes was so damn close
The DQ was legit, but I look at it as a suspect defeat and not Griffin beating him. It's not a stain on Roy's record IMO. He wasn't undefeated but he was still unbeatable.
I look at it the same way I look at Jon Jones's DQ. Jones's DQ was legit too, but in my mind he's still an unbeatable fighter. No one's really "beaten" him.
I look at it the same way I look at Jon Jones's DQ. Jones's DQ was legit too, but in my mind he's still an unbeatable fighter. No one's really "beaten" him.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
Oh, the irony.
How you gonna hem and haw about disregarding a dq in declaring him undefeated then disregard the fact that he did, indeed, win that heavyweight belt.
Black_Jesus
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Roy should have retired when his athleticism was falling off. He was being compared to the all time greats until that Tarver KO, and shyt just went downhill from there. Then again, he fukked up his money, so that's mainly why he kept fighting.
He's still compared to the all time greats... Them nikkas fell off too at one point
Him losing to Tarver was one of the worst days of my boxing fan life. How people are with this #MoneyTeam shyt, that's how i was with Roy back in the day. Plus i got to meet him threw Lil J back in 03.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
prolific posting,......
if not for roy damaging his body's physiology and dropping ro much muscle mass in a short time.
when he should have stayed a hw.
took the fight with bird or coaxed tyson out of retirement.
people speaking ill of jones never saw jones fight in their lives.
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
b hop was b hop, and toney was the best he ever was then as well.
roy lost the fights he lost because of his own ego to chase robinson and physiological damage to his body to make weight.
in a division he should have abandoned title wise.
really he should be given props for valiantly amswering the challenge considering what he did.
yet he fought the best fighter other than himself.
in tarver,..including, imo the best active fighter in the world, glenn johnson.
art barr
Lewis Black
Superstar
Roy my dude but he aint fukin with iron mike or floyd
Black_Jesus
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Black Ball
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Roy is probably the most naturally gifted & talented dude to ever lace up a pair of gloves. He could do things in the ring offensively that nobody else could do. Given all of that, he's still not better than Floyd. Floyd is the smarter & more effective fighter. Great offensive execution & godly defense.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Roy is probably the most naturally gifted & talented dude to ever lace up a pair of gloves. He could do things in the ring offensively that nobody else could do. Given all of that, he's still not better than Floyd. Floyd is the smarter & more effective fighter. Great offensive execution & godly defense.
At 154 RJJ would beat the breaks of Floyd, it wouldn't even go the distance...
Lewis Black
Superstar
Roy is probably the most naturally gifted & talented dude to ever lace up a pair of gloves. He could do things in the ring offensively that nobody else could do. Given all of that, he's still not better than Floyd. Floyd is the smarter & more effective fighter. Great offensive execution & godly defense.
In terms of greatness mike and floyd rank higher, im sorry my dude.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Lewis Black
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For all the people wondering what the fukk im talking bout