So we gon act like Roy Jones didn't tie Marciano's record?

[Achille]

hopkins been wanting to fight roy again since he unified the middleweight title in 2001 breh..hopkins was going to go up to 175 to face him...it was roy that was bullshytting demanding a 60-40 split like he didnt just beat the brakes off tito who was one of the top p4p fighters back then

They were fighting for RJJ 175 Titles he had all of them except the WBO belt and Jones already beat the man. Roy was the number #1 PFP fighter and fighter of the decade. So I think 60/40 offer was more then fair at the time. You see who Tito's ultimate goal was to fight RJJ after the MW tournament.

[ame=http://youtu.be/UJbOw_5DPiE]roy jones and hopkins.3gp - YouTube[/ame]

 

[seemorecizzy]

hopkins been wanting to fight roy again since he unified the middleweight title in 2001 breh..hopkins was going to go up to 175 to face him...it was roy that was bullshytting demanding a 60-40 split like he didnt just beat the brakes off tito who was one of the top p4p fighters back then

60-40 was more den generous
I woulda offered 70-30
If i already beat the guy and i was da p4p king and da most populAr fighter not named tyson or de la hoya.
Hopkins crazy to ask for 50

 

[Black Ball]

That's a bunch of bullshyt.. If Roy would have stayed at Junior Middleweight are you saying a RJJ/May fight wouldn't be sought after?? Doesn't matter if Floyd made 154 or not.. He chooses to fight opponents at that weight.. and currently he has the 154 belt.. That's if he hasn't vacated it yet.

Breh it would have been physically impossible for Roy to "stay" at Jr Middleweight because he was naturally bigger than that. You acting like Roy accomplished anything at that weight. What point are you trying to make?

I'm also confused at you implying there was a possibility of them ever fighting at that weight in real time. The last time Roy fought at that weight was 5 years before Floyd began his career at 130. What is you smoking my dude?

 

[Black_Jesus]

Breh it would have been physically impossible for Roy to "stay" at Jr Middleweight because he was naturally bigger than that. You acting like Roy accomplished anything at that weight. What point are you trying to make?

I'm also confused at you implying there was a possibility of them ever fighting at that weight in real time. The last time Roy fought at that weight was 5 years before Floyd began his career at 130. What is you smoking my dude?

What I was saying was hypothetical.. stop pretending like you didn't understand that... in some alternate universe where Floyd was able to stay at the 150-160 range.. If a fight was ever made between RJJ and Floyd.. Floyd would get the dog shyt beat out of him

 

[Black Ball]

What I was saying was hypothetical.. stop pretending like you didn't understand that... in some alternate universe where Floyd was able to stay at the 150-160 range.. If a fight was ever made between RJJ and Floyd.. Floyd would get the dog shyt beat out of him

1. Floyd aint getting the dog shyt beat out of him by anybody weighing the same as him in his prime. Floyd has put up some of the best defensive performances in the history of the sport.

2. Floyd is still greater than Roy as a fighter, no hypothetical weight class match-up is going to change that.

3. A prime, experienced Floyd vs. an inexperienced Roy just starting his career at 154 would be interesting. Roy had godly speed and physical gifts, but dude was all legs on defense. He fought with a low gaurd and was still very cautious against bums at that weight.

Given how cautious Roy would fight against such a great fighter at that point in his career, Floyd would probably out point him in a boring ass fight. It's not like Roy is gonna open up, even if he has the physical gifts to do so. And Floyd aint gonna be there to get hit with combinations.


Here's Roy fighting at Jr Middle weight against a bum, but the commentators are saying that dude weighed like 160 in this fight.

 

[R=G]

Roy should have retired when his athleticism was falling off. He was being compared to the all time greats until that Tarver KO, and shyt just went downhill from there. Then again, he fukked up his money, so that's mainly why he kept fighting.

No matter what, he'll always be compared to all time greats because he couldn't be beat or even really touched in his prime. Him losing when he got older is what was expected. Why he continued to fight? Who knows. Why did ANY of those dudes continue to fight? Hopkins was just an exception. Not all old nyggas be looking dominant heading into 40 or anything like that.

2. Floyd is still greater than Roy as a fighter, no hypothetical weight class match-up is going to change that.

No one is beating Roy Jones in his prime unless they're a heavyweight on some Ali level speed. That's it. Mayweather? Are you insane? Roy would hit Mayweather with 3 combos before he even got a counter on him. Roy Jones hand speed was fukking absurd.

As for Hopkins/Jones? Hopkins didn't have any leverage. If he was the #1 contender, there would of been a fight and that's it. He wanted equal money and that was impossible because Jones was the undisputed pound 4 pound king.

 

[Achille]

No matter what, he'll always be compared to all time greats because he couldn't be beat or even really touched in his prime. Him losing when he got older is what was expected. Why he continued to fight? Who knows. Why did ANY of those dudes continue to fight? Hopkins was just an exception. Not all old nyggas be looking dominant heading into 40 or anything like that.




No one is beating Roy Jones in his prime unless they're a heavyweight on some Ali level speed. That's it. Mayweather? Are you insane? Roy would hit Mayweather with 3 combos before he even got a counter on him. Roy Jones hand speed was fukking absurd.

As for Hopkins/Jones? Hopkins didn't have any leverage. If he was the #1 contender, there would of been a fight and that's it. He wanted equal money and that was impossible because Jones was the undisputed pound 4 pound king.

It would def be a good fight but back then I think Roy would of had the edge with his speed/power and movement.

Remember this video of Jones in one second time.

 

[Black Ball]

No matter what, he'll always be compared to all time greats because he couldn't be beat or even really touched in his prime. Him losing when he got older is what was expected. Why he continued to fight? Who knows. Why did ANY of those dudes continue to fight? Hopkins was just an exception. Not all old nyggas be looking dominant heading into 40 or anything like that.




No one is beating Roy Jones in his prime unless they're a heavyweight on some Ali level speed. That's it. Mayweather? Are you insane? Roy would hit Mayweather with 3 combos before he even got a counter on him. Roy Jones hand speed was fukking absurd.

As for Hopkins/Jones? Hopkins didn't have any leverage. If he was the #1 contender, there would of been a fight and that's it. He wanted equal money and that was impossible because Jones was the undisputed pound 4 pound king.

Roy was godly talent wise, but dude could be a headcase even in his prime. Dude struggled against Montell Griffin in their 1st fight, looked like he was heading for a loss on the score cards before the DQ.

I saw Roy live at Staples against that bum Julio Gonzalez, and even though Roy could have just ran through dude, he fought cautious as shyt, refusing to even throw punches alot of the time. Carried this bum for 12 rounds that he should have ran through.

I agree that Roy is untouchable physically in his prime, but he didn't always fight that way. I also never said that Floyd could beat Roy in his prime, Roy got 30lbs on the boy. So of course not.

 

[R=G]

Heading towards a loss? LOL. WOW....

 

[Black Ball]

Heading towards a loss? LOL. WOW....

Did you see the fight? I remember it vividly. I loved Roy to death and I was scared that he could lose that fight. Dude was having trouble with Montell before he put dude on the canvas.

 

[SuikodenII]

Heading towards a loss? LOL. WOW....

Honestly it was a close fight and to Montell's credit, he did one hell of a job. Griffin was undefeated and had two legit victories over James Toney, he won't no chump, in the least.





Rematch erased all of that though

 

[Alpha Dog]

FWIW, here are the cards from Jones-Griffin I going into the round:
judge: Barbara Perez 75-76 | judge: Chuck Hassett 77-75 | judge: Terry Smith 76-75

so RJJ was down on one card but had a 10-8 round in the bag, he also knocked Griffin down in rd 7

 

[R=G]

Nah..time was running out on him in that fight. He wasn't winning the rounds against Jones...

Don't show me score cards on fights because you can't trust that shyt and that's always been the case. Only the action is what counts....

Did you see the fight? I remember it vividly. I loved Roy to death and I was scared that he could lose that fight. Dude was having trouble with Montell before he put dude on the canvas.

What is your view of what trouble is? He was not losing rounds. You're making it sound like he was dominated by Griffin in the fight until the 8th The ref saved that boy's ass because time was running out on him.

 

[Achille]

Griffin has a weird style Jones had to adjust and figure him out. Once he did Griffin took the knee and did the acting job. The fight should of been called No Contest because when Riddikk Bowe did the same thing to Buster Mathis that's what it was called.

 

[Art Barr]

In terms of greatness mike and floyd rank higher, im sorry my dude.

dawg,...as a puncher or a skilled boxer.
floyd and tyson are not in roy's distinction or class.

you must have forgot!!

or realisitically, never saw roy to know.


art barr