So we all agree the 2016 election is already a foregone conclusion right?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

landslide

A landslide? Right now, I'd say Hillary wins, but Christie is a strong candidate so I don't say that with any degree of certainty.

But I will say with full certainty that neither would win in a landslide. The country is pretty evenly split, both candidates are strong, and nobody is winning in any landslide unless some epic Watergate-level scandal emerges during the general.

 

[CACtain Planet]

We are going to have 16 years straight of Democrats. Get used to it. The Tea Party was the GOPs undoing.

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[Poitier]

A landslide? Right now, I'd say Hillary wins, but Christie is a strong candidate so I don't say that with any degree of certainty.

But I will say with full certainty that neither would win in a landslide. The country is pretty evenly split, both candidates are strong, and nobody is winning in any landslide unless some epic Watergate-level scandal emerges during the general.

Liberals will turn out in bigger numbers. Undecideds will vote Democrat due to the Tea Party, as well as Latinos. It's a wrap.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

They're not as liberal as you think. They didn't rally to stop Prop 8 in California, and many latinos have stopped immigrating into California in favor of Texas and Arizona.

Also, George Bush did way better with Latinos in 2004 than in 2000.

Jesus christ...shut up. Latinos consistently vote Democrat historically and their support for Dems is growing, not waning. They voted over 2/3rds Dem the last two cycles. Stop making shyt up.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Liberals will turn out in bigger numbers. Undecideds will vote Democrat due to the Tea Party, as well as Latinos. It's a wrap.

it will be years before this election. they're going to have to pull some shyt right before the elections. does anyone care about the IRS thing anymore or the NSA? no...we have short attention spans.

and don't underestimate how much people hate hillary

 

[Poitier]

it will be years before this election. they're going to have to pull some shyt right before the elections. does anyone care about the IRS thing anymore or the NSA? no...we have short attention spans.

and don't underestimate how much people hate hillary

You still don't have a good candidate. Christie isn't cutting it. Ted Cruz basically embarrassed himself with that filibuster. Someone with the last name Bush will not be elected for the next 20 years, if ever.

 

[DEAD7]

You still don't have a good candidate. Christie isn't cutting it. Ted Cruz basically embarrassed himself with that filibuster. Someone with the last name Bush will not be elected for the next 20 years, if ever.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

it will be years before this election. they're going to have to pull some shyt right before the elections. does anyone care about the IRS thing anymore or the NSA? no...we have short attention spans.

and don't underestimate how much people hate hillary

Don't underestimate how much people love her either. Once again, she actually polled better vs. McCain than Obama did in 08.

She does better with blue collar Reagan Democrat type white voters than Obama, so
she might be able to put more states in play than him. Though she will have tougher comp against Christie than Obama ever did against senile grandpa and Gordon Gekko.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

You still don't have a good candidate. Christie isn't cutting it. Ted Cruz basically embarrassed himself with that filibuster. Someone with the last name Bush will not be elected for the next 20 years, if ever.

i'm not a republican but yeah i agree. Christie is their best shot.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Don't underestimate how much people love her either. Once again, she actually polled better vs. McCain than Obama did in 08.

She does better with blue collar Reagan Democrat type white voters than Obama, so
she might be able to put more states in play than him. Though she will have tougher comp against Christie than Obama ever did against senile grandpa and Gordon Gekko.

yeah and women show up to the polls more than men as well.

 

[Poitier]

Once the boomers die out in 15-25 years, it's really over. Millenniums will not be as forgiving for the lost generation....

 

[Odyssey]

Yep. I don't personally think Christie is going to try and bully her at all though, it's just a terrible strategy and it won't get him anywhere for the reasons you just stated. Nor do I think Hillary has the personality, age, or looks to fall back on a 'bullied suppressed woman' angle. I don't think she would, nor is that easy to buy. I think it'll be more like what it was with Obama, with gender specific questions mostly avoided and only extremist angry dudes afraid of being emasculated by a woman president like @Odyssey getting their jimmies rustled

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." - Hilary Clinton

If you want someone with this type of reasoning as your president then i say god bless you, sir. The more women gain political power = one of the signs of a dying empire, i am sorry if this makes social liberals butthurt. The Classical Philosophers understood this, but, it looks like the left just doesn't learn from history and has to keep learning the same lessons over and over. Women are primarily ran by extreme solipsism, narcissism and emotional appeals. Not truth, nor honour, nor fairness, nor decency, nor anything that the greats books taught us.

 

[acri1]

I don't think it's set in stone - 2016 is still a ways away.

Hillary probably has it if she wants it, but that's an if. For one, she's getting to be a bit on the older side for a presidential candidate, and there's always the possibility that she'll have some health issue in the next few years. Assuming she actually runs, she'll probably win the primary (and the election).

Christie...meh. He's gonna have a hard time getting the hardcore tea party types to support him. The GOP base tends to see him as a moderate (even though he really isn't). He'll be seen as Mitt Romney part II and might not make it past the primaries. Plus, to keep it 100, I think the weight issue might work against him.

 

[Poitier]

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." - Hilary Clinton

If you want someone with this type of reasoning as your president then i say god bless you, sir. The more women gain political power = one of the signs of a dying empire, i am sorry if this makes social liberals butthurt. The Classical Philosophers understood this, but, it looks like the left just doesn't learn from history and has to keep learning the same lessons over and over. Women are primarily ran by extreme solipsism, narcissism and emotional appeals. Not truth, nor honour, nor fairness, nor decency, nor anything that the greats books taught us.

LOL This is why the GOP is going to lose in 2016.

 

[youngmeezy]

Republicans might go with Marco Rubio so they can have an edge in Florida.