So we all agree the 2016 election is already a foregone conclusion right?

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PRISM started under a conservative president. That is not a party-centric thing you can pinpoint.

Also, Latinos aren't going back to the Conservative party until they get immigration reform, and by then, they will be die hard Liberals like Blacks after The New Deal.
But the fact that Obama defended PRISM instead of ending it all together, is pretty disturbing. He also sent thousands of guns to Mexican cartels. Pretty sure Latinos are still pissed about that. Also, Ted Cruz won some counties in the Valley of Texas in 2012. I doubt latino become liberal. Latinos come to America because they hate the liberal socialist democracies that have run their countries into the ground. They love capitalism.
 

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Your half right. i don't see either party nominating an obese candidate in the era of televison and internet. I can't even remember our last fat president.

And I don't even think he has the discipline to lose that much weight.
Nah his weight is a non-issue. That's just some media-generated bs. No one really cares about it. This country is definitely ready for a fat President. Just go to a Wal-Mart and look around lol.
 

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But the fact that Obama defended PRISM instead of ending it all together, is pretty disturbing. He also sent thousands of guns to Mexican cartels. Pretty sure Latinos are still pissed about that. Also, Ted Cruz won some counties in the Valley of Texas in 2012. I doubt latino become liberal. Latinos come to America because they hate the liberal socialist democracies that have run their countries into the ground. They love capitalism.

LOL Latinos are already Liberal. Ted Cruz is not the candidate to win them back. Conservatives shot themselves in the foot with the Immigration reform.
 

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I never liked the fact that she lied about the whole snipers in Bosnia thing, I think that was kind of insulting to voters intelligence.
They'll go after her for her age and for Benghazi.

Christie is too much of a centrist
But so was McCain in some regards, and Mitt was a straight up centrist.
 

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LOL Latinos are already Liberal. Ted Cruz is not the candidate to win them back. Conservatives shot themselves in the foot with the Immigration reform.
They're not as liberal as you think. They didn't rally to stop Prop 8 in California, and many latinos have stopped immigrating into California in favor of Texas and Arizona.

Also, George Bush did way better with Latinos in 2004 than in 2000.
 

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They'll go after her for her age and for Benghazi.


But so was McCain in some regards, and Mitt was a straight up centrist.
True and true but IMO over the next couple of years Benghazi will become irrelevant compared to other shyt that's going on

Also, it's ok to be centrist but you can't flip flop or rather you can't flip flop to the point where there is a glaringly obvious inconsistency.
 

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Laugh now, cry later... Not since Rosevelt have Democrips won 3 straight presidential elections... Hill dog is to polarizing and will not turn out the minority base and independents like Barack did...folk will stay home and the Bush/Christie era will begin

We are going to have 16 years straight of Democrats. Get used to it. The Tea Party was the GOPs undoing.
 

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As of right now it's a cake walk for Hillary. Regardless of the (imaginary) merits of Christie, the Clinton brand is stronger. 90's nostalgia for the Clinton economic boom, women as the largest voting block, and Republicans favorables at the lowest point since Watergate, and the general media love of Bill is going to be overwhelming. We're looking at a wave election where Dems would control the Senate and the House as well as the Presidency.

Expect unprecedented election time fukkery and bigotry.
 

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We are going to have 16 years straight of Democrats. Get used to it. The Tea Party was the GOPs undoing.
It's crazy how this shyt is so obvious...the Tea Party is like the drunk uncle at your 17th birthday party, and all your friends, maybe even a couple females ones, are over as well and everyone in your family is watching your uncle get a little too fresh or friendly with a female friend but no one will say anything cause...yo...that's ya moms brother you can't tell him nothin :to:
As of right now it's a cake walk for Hillary. Regardless of the (imaginary) merits of Christie, the Clinton brand is stronger. 90's nostalgia for the Clinton economic boom, women as the largest voting block, and Republicans favorables at the lowest point since Watergate, and the general media love of Bill is going to be overwhelming. We're looking at a wave election where Dems would control the Senate and the House as well as the Presidency.

Expect unprecedented election time fukkery and bigotry.
Basically. Also, remember how the GOP relectantly stood behind Romney? They're gonna do the same thing with Christie. He's too outspoken and is too willing to reach across the aisle.

That's where the GOP has fukked up. They've been on some Kanye "Can't Tell Me Nothin" shyt for the past maybe 20 years while the Dems have been taking L's in battle but licking their wounds and plotting in the darkness...and then out of the darkness came Obama...don't even ask me how...

They are content to go down with the ship because they don't want to use life rafts that were inflated by progressives :laugh:
 

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and Mitt was a straight up centrist.
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