So THIS is the trailer trolling muslims that got the American killed

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The word "gun" doesn't appear anywhere in your link.

I don't see why you would take that literally, i obviously used it as a figure of speech to mean using force or the the threat of force

not only are you a vile and disgusting individual but you are dense also
 

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Looks like wize fool didn't read my original post in "The Games Muslims Play" thread..
 

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You did give a thorough view. It still allows slavery. The fact that your book asks for slaves to be good to slaves, doesn't negate the fact that an individual's freedom was taken from them.

Before I get to moral and ethics regarding individuals in different philosophical schools of thought, we have to train you to understand basic logic first.

"Your book asks slaves to be good slaves"? Hmmm. I'm not sure where you are getting this stuff from.

You do understand that slavery existed before Islam correct? And once Islam came it moderated and eventually helped to abolish it. Freeing slaves is called a virtuous act throughout "my book".

Furthermore, as I also tried to explain, but based on your other responses, I doubt you saw, slavery was not what you have been trained to think about slavery. We're not talking about chattel slavery. Slavery in Islam was a lot like capitalism today. The only difference is you don't consider yourself a slave.

I can't believe this is a former military man I am teaching this to. Were you "free" in the marines? Are you "free" at your current job? Most of us work for someone else and they give us a percentage of what we make for them. Calling it a job sounds nice, but let's be honest, most of us are slaves in this economy.
 

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Looks like wize fool didn't read my original post in "The Games Muslims Play" thread..

This may be the only post of yours I would ever bother reading and that's only because I saw my name in it. You don't even exist to me. :heh:
 

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"Your book asks slaves to be good slaves"? Hmmm. I'm not sure where you are getting this stuff from.

You do understand that slavery existed before Islam correct? And once Islam came it moderated and eventually helped to abolish it. Freeing slaves is called a virtuous act throughout "my book".

Furthermore, as I also tried to explain, but based on your other responses, I doubt you saw, slavery was not what you have been trained to think about slavery. We're not talking about chattel slavery. Slavery in Islam was a lot like capitalism today. The only difference is you don't consider yourself a slave.

I can't believe this is a former military man I am teaching this to. Were you "free" in the marines? Are you "free" at your current job? Most of us work for someone else and they give us a percentage of what we make for them. Calling it a job sounds nice, but let's be honest, most of us are slaves in this economy.

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your defending slavery now?
 

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"Your book asks slaves to be good slaves"? Hmmm. I'm not sure where you are getting this stuff from.

You do understand that slavery existed before Islam correct? And once Islam came it moderated and eventually helped to abolish it. Freeing slaves is called a virtuous act throughout "my book".

Furthermore, as I also tried to explain, but based on your other responses, I doubt you saw, slavery was not what you have been trained to think about slavery. We're not talking about chattel slavery. Slavery in Islam was a lot like capitalism today. The only difference is you don't consider yourself a slave.

I can't believe this is a former military man I am teaching this to. Were you "free" in the marines? Are you "free" at your current job? Most of us work for someone else and they give us a percentage of what we make for them. Calling it a job sounds nice, but let's be honest, most of us are slaves in this economy.

No lie, I have never ever heard someone try to justify slavery. This is a first.

Millions of people, possibly more than 100 million, died under Islam's raiding of Africa for slaves. All while quoting scripture.

It would be like me pointing out that in Ancient Greece and Rome, slaves could gain their freedom and become citizens. Who the fukk cares? Those people were enslaved.
 

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No lie, I have never ever heard someone try to justify slavery. This is a first.

Millions of people, possibly more than 100 million, died under Islam's raiding of Africa for slaves. All while quoting scripture.

It would be like me pointing out that in Ancient Greece and Rome, slaves could gain their freedom and become citizens. Who the fukk cares? Those people were enslaved.

Is English your first language? Seriously, no joking. I know you're from South America. You seem to be struggling with reading comprehension. Where am I justifying slavery?

I'm simply pointing out the fact that your perception of slavery is skewed. I hope you're this passionate when the time comes to fight for your own freedom in this country. I see you neglected to touch on the fact that you, yourself, have at least at one point been a slave to the US government.

And I also don't believe your numbers.
 

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Ah yes. I remember this video from SOHH.

I already gave you the Islamic rulings of slavery. Whether these rules were followed or not would be between the individual and Allah.

Now do yourself a favor and find a youtube video regarding Africans enslavement of Africans in order to unskew your clearly biased opinion.

I don't see what the rulings of Islam have to do with me, if they weren't followed that is an issue that Muslims should discuss among themselves

and a discussion of African slavery is a discussion among africans

But for the record let it be shown that you were unable to refute the assertion that the British empire forced Muslims to end slavery
 

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:snoop:@Bimbo defending slavery and acting as if any sentient mammal should take him seriously.

Ah Victor! You see you might have some back up so you finally decided to come out of hiding. Unfortunately you're wrong again but I'm sure you must be desensitized to that by now.

How soft can one man be?
 

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Is English your first language? Seriously, no joking. I know you're from South America. You seem to be struggling with reading comprehension. Where am I justifying slavery?

I'm simply pointing out the fact that your perception of slavery is skewed. I hope you're this passionate when the time comes to fight for your own freedom in this country. I see you neglected to touch on the fact that you, yourself, have at least at one point been a slave to the US government.

And I also don't believe your numbers.

I signed a contract. I, under my own authority, sought to seek employment and service in the military, which ended as soon as the contract I signed ended.

That is much different than the Islamic Slavery that you are romanticizing over.

You have spent the last 2 pages making this argument:

"Well, you know slavery has always existed, but Islamic came around and made it nicer". This ignores the point that people were still enslaved and had no freedom.

Also, slavery STILL exists in modern Islamic countries.
 
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