So they really thought they could get Denzel to take a non lead role in Fast & Furious

[Abstract83]

Listen to how some of y'all sound. How the fukk ya gonna compare ff to denzel. They need denzel definately not the other way around. U think he worried about $ right now. Denzel got classics on top of classics. Ff is hot at the moment. None of the ff cast individually or collectively have classics.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

even "his flop" babylon made 72 million

The budget was $70 million dikk wad And that's not including marketing and promotion. The movie theatre gets 1/2 the ticket sales. That movie lost money. Just shut the fukk up

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Listen to how some of y'all sound. How the fukk ya gonna compare ff to denzel. They need denzel definately not the other way around. U think he worried about $ right now. Denzel got classics on top of classics. Ff is hot at the moment. None of the ff cast individually or collectively have classics.

how does a franchise thats been going for 12 years, has three more films greenlit and makes triple what his movies make need him?

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

The budget was $70 million dikk wad And that's not including marketing and promotion. The movie theatre gets 1/2 the ticket sales. That movie lost money. Just shut the fukk up

hence why i used the word flop. and guess what? outside of ff and gi joe rocks last five movies make 50 million each.

But hes the box office draw?

you think denzel movies havent lost money?

i post several huge draws of diesels and yet you get quiet as fukk about

 

[hex]

how does a franchise thats been going for 12 years, has three more films greenlit and makes triple what his movies make need him?

Breh, no offense but your logic this whole thread is faulty as hell.

First off, Denzel Washington had hit movies and was winning awards 10+ years before anybody gave a fukk about the "FF" franchise. So I'm kinda at you continually harping on how big "FF" is. No shyt it's big, it's a popular modern franchise. "Transformers" also made more money than Denzel, do you think he cares in light of the fact that he's rich and one of the most celebrated actors in history? Is he supposed to sit there like "I need me some of this FF money", as if he ain't a vet with literally nothing to gain by associating himself with this flash in the pan franchise? You're asking why they need him, as if they didn't try to get him.

Fred.

 

[Slystallion]

Actors turn down roles all the time and many times its their managers who help them make that decision...picking roles suitable to them is important...doesn't mean they disrespect the director or franchise they just don't feel they are a right fit

And like hexagram said why would Denzel take part in a movie like transformers its not a good fit...Denzel deserves to be in movies that have more dramatic range and are well written and can be challenging for him and if you notice he doesn't do super hero movies or large franchised blockbusters its not his lane ...for the most part the formula is that Denzel is the draw not robots or cars

Will smith turned down the matrix remember ...its kind of like picking a girlfriend its not personal sometimes lifestyles or other factors come into play that you know would make it a bad fit...like say you met a really hot girl but she's just ratchet and into partying all the time and loud and obnoxious you might have fun with her but you won't consider her relationship material

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Flash in the pan? How is a franchise spanning 12+ years a flash in the pan? With three more films on deck itll be 15+ years and grossing BILLIONS of dollars when its done. Im not sure you know what flash in the pan means, because its almost unheard of what the franchise has done.
They tried to get denzel because they thought hed add something. But need him? Theyll just move on to someone else.
Im laughing at peoples logic that Denzel is too big for one of the bigger franchises of all time. Because artistically and commercially he has done worse.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

@Slystallion has pretty much had the only sensible response.

But when you have idiots saying they cant afford denzel, or that rock the driving force of the films, j i just

 

[Abstract83]

how does a franchise thats been going for 12 years, has three more films greenlit and makes triple what his movies make need him?

Aren't they the ones that hollered at him for the role? At u comparing a franchise thats popular at the moment to the legacy of one actor. Like I said holler at me when they make some classics. Put aside the budget for once. That only determines how many people see it. FF picked up steam again once part 4 came out. That whole cast need each other. And ima FF fan. Denzel has decades of movies.

 

[hex]

Flash in the pan? How is a franchise spanning 12+ years a flash in the pan? With three more films on deck itll be 15+ years and grossing BILLIONS of dollars when its done. Im not sure you know what flash in the pan means, because its almost unheard of what the franchise has done.
They tried to get denzel because they thought hed add something. But need him? Theyll just move on to someone else.
Im laughing at peoples logic that Denzel is too big for one of the bigger franchises of all time. Because artistically and commercially he has done worse.

Breh do you work on the movies or something? You seem heavily invested in defending them.

And they are flash in the pan in the grand scheme of things. Denzel been making movies since 1977. He's been winning awards since 1986. Hollywood has been making movies since 1910. How the fukk is this franchise important? Because it makes money? You seriously think people will be discussing "FF" 25+ years after it falls out of the public spot light, like they do "Glory" or "Malcolm X"? Hell no. So again....how is this shyt important, especially compared to Denzel Washington? It's a summer blockbuster franchise that nobody in their right mind takes too seriously.

Fred.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Breh do you work on the movies or something? You seem heavily invested in defending them.

Fred.

this coming from the guy whos written more posts defending breaking bad then i have posts in total. shyt you cant even find me talking about these movies other then this thread. I just wanted to crash reality onto a bunch of denzel dikk suckers.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

this coming from the guy whos written more posts defending breaking bad then i have posts in total. shyt you cant even find me talking about these movies other then this thread. I just wanted to crash reality onto a bunch of denzel dikk suckers.

What reality is that? That he's a better more accomplished actor than Vin Diesel? That he has 2 Oscars and various nominations? That he's been in more critically acclaimed movies than everyone in FF combined?
That by your logic Shia LaBeouf is a better actor than Denzel based on his ave. box office draw, I mean he did this Transformers movies. Or that you're just an in the moment dikk rider too young to even have seen the majority of Denzel Washinton's work.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

What reality is that? That he's a better more accomplished actor than Vin Diesel? That he has 2 Oscars and various nominations? That he's been in more critically acclaimed movies than everyone in FF combined?
That by your logic Shia LaBeouf is a better actor than Denzel based on his ave. box office draw, I mean he did this Transformers movies. Or that you're just an in the moment dikk rider too young to even have seen the majority of Denzel Washinton's work.

The funny thing is youre just jumping to random shyt, and defending points ive never made this entire time. Breh, ive proven you wrong on pretty much every turn in this thread.

Ive never once said vin diesel is a better actor, or that he has more critical acclaim.

But youre so eager to defend your man crush on denzel youre making these wild, baseless claims that have no basis in reality. I mean you really said xXx fukked up vin diesels career, a movie that made more money then any denzel washington movie has ever made. You, and a few other posters are so caught up in your denzel man love that youre diminishing ff and vin diesel in some attempt to prop up denzel. Denzel is a legend, a great actor, one of the greatest. he doesnt need to be propped up. I presented facts, and you get hurt about it and move the goal posts and talk about something else.Notice how you didnt mention vin not being a draw again after i brought up the numbers? or that rock carried the movies to bigger success even though almost every movie hes in tops off at 50 million or less at the box office. All that really needed to be said for you or your fellows denzel loving brehs to say is the franchince wouldnt be a good fit for him as an actor at this time in his career. Which to me, is debatable, but is a valid arguement. But to act as if the guy who just made 2 gunz is above the franchise artistically is laughable at best, or that hes too big for the franchise financially, also a fukking joke.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

The funny thing is youre just jumping to random shyt, and defending points ive never made this entire time. Breh, ive proven you wrong on pretty much every turn in this thread.

Ive never once said vin diesel is a better actor, or that he has more critical acclaim.

But youre so eager to defend your man crush on denzel youre making these wild, baseless claims that have no basis in reality. I mean you really said xXx fukked up vin diesels career, a movie that made more money then any denzel washington movie has ever made. You, and a few other posters are so caught up in your denzel man love that youre diminishing ff and vin diesel in some attempt to prop up denzel. Denzel is a legend, a great actor, one of the greatest. he doesnt need to be propped up. I presented facts, and you get hurt about it and move the goal posts and talk about something else.Notice how you didnt mention vin not being a draw again after i brought up the numbers? or that rock carried the movies to bigger success even though almost every movie hes in tops off at 50 million or less at the box office. All that really needed to be said for you or your fellows denzel loving brehs to say is the franchince wouldnt be a good fit for him as an actor at this time in his career. Which to me, is debatable, but is a valid arguement. But to act as if the guy who just made 2 gunz is above the franchise artistically is laughable at best, or that hes too big for the franchise financially, also a fukking joke.

He's only been in 15 wide released movies.... 15. That's it. So one forth of his career has been fast and furious movies. So lets look at those other 50 mili movies you like the bring up.


Chronicles Of Riddikk - it did 115 million worldwide..... but the budget was 105 milion. That movie got bad reviews and lost money. Pitch Black took a loss too.
The Pacifier - it did 198 million world wide and made money but it was a forgettable movie.
XXX - it did big numbers


That's it. What else has he done? How is he a draw when he isn't even in that many movies? 25% of his career is Fast & Furious.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

He's only been in 15 wide released movies.... 15. That's it. So one forth of his career has been fast and furious movies. So lets look at those other 50 mili movies you like the bring up.


Chronicles Of Riddikk - it did 115 million worldwide..... but the budget was 105 milion. That movie
got bad reviews and lost money. Pitch Black took a loss too.
The Pacifier - it did 198 million world wide and made money but it was a forgettable movie.
XXX - it did big numbers


That's it. What else has he done? How is he a draw when he isn't even in that many movies? 25% of his career is Fast & Furious.

you cant help but lie can you? riddikk has a sequel coming next month.COR did very well on dvd and made a profit and has become a cult film in circles. It sold 1.5 million copies the first day of release. how did pitch black take a loss? you think the studio would greenlight chronicles of riddikk if pitch black had taken a loss? it had a budget of 23 million and made 53 million. it was his breakthrough role.

in 15 movies his movies have made almost has much as denzels movies have made in 42,almost three times the amount of films. if thats not a draw then who is? the fact his movies have grossed so much in so few films is definitive proof,im not sure what else you need to see.