So Tariq the scammer really out here owing almost 200k in back taxes.

[Wildhundreds]

Don’t conflate Tariq’s point which is really Malcolm X’s point with white racist “bootstraps” nonsense. Tariq has stated many of times that he has an inherited disadvantage but the difference is...he doesn’t use it as an excuse TO NOT try to succeed. He says “shyt if I was able to build this with meager resources, just imagine what I could have built if I wasn’t artificially held back”.

That’s the difference with his mentality and ToneVette’s. They both agree there’s an inherited disadvantage but ToneVette says “don’t even try to be successful cuz you’re poor and will never make it so lets just try to get reparations”. Tariq says “there’s success out here available for us, let’s do our best to get as much success we can as a community and then leverage this success to get us reparations”.

The bold is where i part ways with ADOS theology..

 

[FeverPitch2]

This is too wide of a question. You need to specify e.g. a convention like comic con, a convention like AVN, a convention like what?

I dont know. That's why I asked.
I've seen a few ppl on here throwing around figures, so I thought that maybe someone must know.
Comic Con and AVN are huge.
I would think what Tariq is trying to do wont be that big but it wont be bare bones, either.
Does anyone have any real world figures?

 

[Wildhundreds]

So this whole division seems to be a problem of classism among black americans..

The group that has done well for themselves, see reparations as the icing on the cake..

The other group see reparations as the cake..

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You're making alot of assumption based off something that isn't even concrete.

Thats the point dummy. 200k is a hell of a lot to ask for without a concrete business plan or even rough estimate of cost. Tariq claims he is business man so he should know how business works. You plan first. Then you raise money once you know the cost.

You dont go on shark tank and ask mark cuban to invest 200k in your project without being able to answer the basic question of what do you need the money for. You would get laughed out the building.

 

[MostReal]

Holding someone accountable for lying about what they are using donated funds for is not pocket watching. If he is keeping 90% of the money raised then he is scamming people.

When you used the money to put out said product how are you keeping 90% of the money? This stuff Tariq has made isn't free, it actually cost money and time

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I dont know. That's why I asked.
I've seen a few ppl on here throwing around figures, so I thought that maybe someone must know.
Comic Con and AVN are huge.
I would think what Tariq istryign to do wont be thatbig buth it wont be bare bones, either.
Does anyone have any real world figures?

That's like asking how much does a wedding cost. It just dependent on your budget. You can do it cheap for $1000 or you can spluge and do it for 100k. Some cheap hotel conference halls cost $500 a day to rent and the nicer expensive hotels and conference centers may charge you 10K a day to rent. In general though the venue cost wouldn't be that expensive for an event like this.

 

[EndGame]

He needs to move from Cali.

 

[FeverPitch2]

That's like asking how much does a wedding cost. It just dependent on your budget. You can do it cheap for $1000 or you can spluge and do it for 100k. Some cheap hotel conference halls cost $500 a day to rent and the nicer expensive hotels and conference centers may charge you 10K a day to rent. In general though the venue cost wouldn't be that expensive for an event like this.

So, in other words, you dont know.

 

[CoryMack]

So this whole division seems to be a problem of classism among black americans..

The group that has done well for themselves, see reparations as the icing on the cake..

The other group see reparations as the cake..

I wouldn't say that. Not quite. Tariq's followers are mostly low to middle income people too. He doesn't have a monopoly on the middle and upper classes. Truth be told I think Yvette and Tone's people might have a little more education and money. If you're a college graduate/professional in corporate america yvette and tone's information based presentations are probably more appealing than Tariq's jokes and entertainment.

I don't have a side, because none of them have presented any real solutions as far as I can see. Tariq's conference isn't going to be any different than the "State of the Black Union" cspan or cnn used to air every year with prominent Black people speaking. Nothing substantial is going to come out of it, just like nothing substantial came outta all the conferences Tavis used to host. It'll be a feel-good fashion show with a buncha empty lectures, card exchanging, and partying after.

Yvette and Tone putting their hopes in the government paying out reparations is admirable, because we are overdue, but it's not realistic. White people aren't going to fund their own destruction, or even fund any leveling of the playing field. It'd be suicidal. You don't pay for your enemy to replace you on the world stage, and I don't know how ya'll view white folks but they've never ever stopped seeing us as their foremost enemy the world over.

And the truth is we don't have 10 years to debate with white people, or really even any Black people. Not anymore. We see what's going on in the world. White people have armed themselves and are ready for violent conflict both here and abroad.

I can promise you this, and you should mark my words: If there is a major "terrorist attack" in this country where martial law is declared anywhere and mass communications are seized/shut down for even a week, Black people will be quietly slaughtered in certain areas just like they did during Katrina. And it won't be big news either, it'll be a quiet but confirmed rumor. Just like Katrina.

If you don't have at least a pistol, you better get your ass out there and get one as soon as you can.

nikkas better wake the fukk up, that's all I know.

 

[Mr swag]

What year are his taxes backed up? if its the pat two years. no big deal really

 

[philmonroe]

Does anyone have any hard figures on how much it costs to put on a conference?

Yeah is like to know too but it probably is still situational depending on how many people and the type of venue you get it at. I’m assuming somewhere like the Mercedes Benz dome would be more expensive than some convention center but I could be dead wrong.

 

[Wildhundreds]

I wouldn't say that. Not quite. Tariq's followers are mostly low to middle income people too. He doesn't have a monopoly on the middle and upper classes. Truth be told I think Yvette and Tone's people might have a little more education and money. If you're a college graduate/professional in corporate america yvette and tone's information based presentations are probably more appealing than Tariq's jokes and entertainment.

I don't have a side, because none of them have presented any real solutions as far as I can see. Tariq's conference isn't going to be any different than the "State of the Black Union" cspan or cnn used to air every year with prominent Black people speaking. Nothing substantial is going to come out of it, just like nothing substantial came outta all the conferences Tavis used to host. It'll be a feel-good fashion show with a buncha empty lectures, card exchanging, and partying after.

Yvette and Tone putting their hopes in the government paying out reparations is admirable, because we are overdue, but it's not realistic. White people aren't going to fund their own destruction, or even fund any leveling of the playing field. It'd be suicidal. You don't pay for your enemy to replace you on the world stage, and I don't know how ya'll view white folks but they've never ever stopped seeing us as their foremost enemy the world over.

And the truth is we don't have 10 years to debate with white people, or really even any Black people. Not anymore. We see what's going on in the world. White people have armed themselves and are ready for violent conflict both here and abroad.

I can promise you this, and you should mark my words: If there is a major "terrorist attack" in this country where martial law is declared anywhere and mass communications are seized/shut down for even a week, Black people will be quietly slaughtered in certain areas just like they did during Katrina. And it won't be big news either, it'll be a quiet but confirmed rumor. Just like Katrina.

If you don't have at least a pistol, you better get your ass out there and get one as soon as you can.

nikkas better wake the fukk up, that's all I know.

Fire..

Especially that last paragraph.

They already talking that Iran got some of the best hackers in the world and any attack would come that route 1st..

 

[philmonroe]

I wouldn't say that. Not quite. Tariq's followers are mostly low to middle income people too. He doesn't have a monopoly on the middle and upper classes. Truth be told I think Yvette and Tone's people might have a little more education and money. If you're a college graduate/professional in corporate america yvette and tone's information based presentations are probably more appealing than Tariq's jokes and entertainment.

I don't have a side, because none of them have presented any real solutions as far as I can see. Tariq's conference isn't going to be any different than the "State of the Black Union" cspan or cnn used to air every year with prominent Black people speaking. Nothing substantial is going to come out of it, just like nothing substantial came outta all the conferences Tavis used to host. It'll be a feel-good fashion show with a buncha empty lectures, card exchanging, and partying after.

Yvette and Tone putting their hopes in the government paying out reparations is admirable, because we are overdue, but it's not realistic. White people aren't going to fund their own destruction, or even fund any leveling of the playing field. It'd be suicidal. You don't pay for your enemy to replace you on the world stage, and I don't know how ya'll view white folks but they've never ever stopped seeing us as their foremost enemy the world over.

And the truth is we don't have 10 years to debate with white people, or really even any Black people. Not anymore. We see what's going on in the world. White people have armed themselves and are ready for violent conflict both here and abroad.

I can promise you this, and you should mark my words: If there is a major "terrorist attack" in this country where martial law is declared anywhere and mass communications are seized/shut down for even a week, Black people will be quietly slaughtered in certain areas just like they did during Katrina. And it won't be big news either, it'll be a quiet but confirmed rumor. Just like Katrina.

If you don't have at least a pistol, you better get your ass out there and get one as soon as you can.

nikkas better wake the fukk up, that's all I know.

“Solutions” been out just that you and others seem to be doing like fat people hoping to lose weight and waiting for a magical pill. That shyt ain’t never happening. The solution is “bootstraps” talk lol. You have to do for yourself esp in the beginning and as you get bigger more and more people will get on if they see you doing good. We will never be all in agreement on how things should go in regards to the actual steps. You just build with like minded folks and when y’all making moves others want to be down and hopefully it continues on and on from one generation to the next. It’s not easy but it’s not this unattainable thing either. I see like minded folks getting together all the time to improve their futures and that’s what more cats need to do instead of looking to these cats for saving.

 

[CoryMack]

“Solutions” been out just that you and others seem to be doing like fat people hoping to lose weight and waiting for a magical pill. That shyt ain’t never happening. The solution is “bootstraps” talk lol. You have to do for yourself esp in the beginning and as you get bigger more and more people will get on if they see you doing good. We will never be all in agreement on how things should go in regards to the actual steps. You just build with like minded folks and when y’all making moves others want to be down and hopefully it continues on and on from one generation to the next. It’s not easy but it’s not this unattainable thing either. I see like minded folks getting together all the time to improve their futures and that’s what more cats need to do instead of looking to these cats for saving.

i don't need your help nor instruction i can guarantee you that.

 

[Deuterion]

So, in other words, you dont know.

No, you’re asking too open-ended of a question. You need to make it more specific like “how much does it costs to have a 1 day convention, two break-out sessions, basic refreshments in the morning, catered lunch in the afternoon, and open bar at the end, in Los Angeles, CA”. If you’re not getting that granular then no one can even begin to give an answer.