so, Ross did 56k in his 2nd week

[Yaboysix]

thats kinda sad.....
















but we aint buyin albums in the hood noway ,skrate bootleg lol

 

[Scoop]

Needs that Diced Pineapples video asap.

 

[King Karim]

Jeezy and Ross fans have both been frivolous. People just making up stuff as they go along. No real facts, just throwing shade at each other. Both artists are basically in the same boat. A lot of the negative things being said about one artist can be said about the other. In regard to success, the only plus in the Jeezy column is two platinum albums. One of them acquired before Ross debuted. The other acquired the same year Ross came out. The rest:

The Recession, 2008- Gold
Trilla, 2008- Gold

^^^Jeezy sold about 200K more overall

Deeper Than, 2009- 434K
No album from Jeezy. TM103 announced August '09

Teflon Don, 2010- 724K
Jeezy album pushed back

TM103, 2011- 630K as of August 1
Ross album pushed back

God Forgives, I Don't, 2012- 279K as of August 15

Both artists rely heavily on features. They both employ similar production. They both have signature ad-libs. Both of them are on Def Jam (either way, it's a W for Def Jam). Both had their albums pushed back even though Jeezy's album was pushed back significantly more than Ross's.


Jeezy had the stronger start and then declined since 2008 in terms of sales (if that's what it's about) where Ross dropped off and bounced back.

^^^All facts no made up points.

u forgot to mention the countless jabs thrown by Ricky at Jeezy for being "done" pushed back...the tweets about dropping duds, and Ross proclamation that he don't get pushed back


all facts

 

[King Karim]

Just cuz ur a doipeboy don't make u that nikka, there's a lot of punk nikkas sellin work, jeezy spit that BMF life yet he didn't get hit with any time my dude so he wasn't part of shyt...same way I don't know how much weight he sold you don't either my dude unless u was side by side with dude when he had the jerri willy way back...jeezy always talks about how he would do this and that but we all know he won't do shyt. Don't believe these rap dudes b, its wrestlemania out here fam, come to the jungle and you'll see what's goiing on for real b.

Young Jeezy Implicated In Cocaine-Trafficking Case - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV.com

 

[King Karim]

So Jeezy fans that don't buy the album are phony, but the legions of Ross fans that don't buy his albums are real and the reaon that Ross "runs the streets".

You Ross "fans" know Deeper Than Rap wasn't the nikkas first album right?

Yo, for real, ya Ros stans need to get Charmander to come through and consult you guys on proper stanning. Say what you want about YMCMB, but their stans enter any thread throwing shade at them with a unified front and know how they're gonna spin shyt. Y'all nikkas are a mess right now.





Speaking of YMCMB, could've sworn Wayne has been doing exactly what you claim is diluting Ross. Plus Wayne has managed to have three of his artists drop albums (as opposed to Wale being the only one other than Ross to drop on MMG), has done a label compilation album, stays doing features and mixtapes, even puts out alternative albums, and the nikka continues to do a milly first week.

Kanye's got a roster three times the size of Ross' has had more of his dudes drop albums, which he has had varying roles in including rapping and producing, is dropping a label album soon and sells a ton of records consistently.

POWERFUL POST here


I was wondering why Char hasn't lent these guys a hand....even he must see the writing on the wall

 

[King Karim]

All I know the past 3 years Ross really raised his profile, Jeezy has remained pretty low key.

Jeezy's popularity has never come close to Ross' popularity of the past 3 years, especially in the streets. Ross was everywhere. Ross was all over the radio, and had a trilateral relationship between 2 of the hottest crews out today (YMCMB & Kanye/Jay-Z collective).

Ross has been making a lot of noise, been on a lot of big singles, and been way too successful with his MMG imprint to be doing these kind of numbers. Something is going on. If you compare Ross music to Jeezy's, Ross puts out more big budget affairs and Ross' albums feel like major productions.

At this stage Ross should be 2nd to none. Maybe he'll do it on the next album. I really expected him to make his breakthrough with this album.

its gonna be very tough

The Label REALLY expected this album to perform well, and if it doesn't pick up steam or somehow has a surprising long consistent shelf life, chances are he won't have a quick turnaround to rebound. I could pull up interviews where execs from The Label came out and said they are expecting big things with this album.

With that said, next time out they wont be as budget friendly or priority friendly especially if he doesn't outsell the guy under him.

 

[King Karim]

Lady Gaga Named Most Popular Celebrity Of All-Time - Celebrity Gossip, News & Photos, Movie Reviews, Competitions - Entertainmentwise

sorry. but I will never say ANY artist was as popular as Michael Jackson...EVER

 

[swerve]

Ross career about to be over

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

sorry. but I will never say ANY artist was as popular as Michael Jackson...EVER

MJ IS THE GOAT OF ALL MUSIC AND ENTERTAINERS....NOBODY WILL EVER REACH HIS HEIGHT OR SELL WHAT HE SOLD........PERIOD.....NO DISCUSSION NEEDED ON THAT....

ITS UNDISCOVERED LOST UNCIVILIZED TRIBES IN THE RAIN FOREST, BONES IN THEY NOSE BANGING ON TURTLE SHELLS SINGING BILLIE JEAN RIGHT NOW

 

[BaRRyG]

Young Jeezy Implicated In Cocaine-Trafficking Case - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV.com

Allegedly my dude, no facts whatsover everything is allegedly...karim you really love jeezy b, I hope he breaking bread with you.

 

[JustCKing]

u forgot to mention the countless jabs thrown by Ricky at Jeezy for being "done" pushed back...the tweets about dropping duds, and Ross proclamation that he don't get pushed back


all facts

That was already mentioned. Fact is both artists got pushed back. The only difference is that Jeezy was pushed back more than Ross. As far as dropping duds, that's his opinions. People could say the same about Ross. People could say the same about Jeezy. Proclamations of not getting pushed back is nothing more than posturing as many artists are pushed back for numerous reasons.

 

[JustCKing]

So now Adele isn't big?

Nobody said she wasn't. She was an example of an artist not as popular can outsell an artist that is more popular (Gaga). Someone made a statement that a non-popular artist could never outsell a popular one. I used two artists as an example.

Saying that a popular artist could never be outsold by an artist that's not as popular is absurd. By that logic, there's no way Drake or Wayne could've outsold Kanye and Jay's Watch The Throne.

 

[obarth]

Nobody said she wasn't. She was an example of an artist not as popular can outsell an artist that is more popular (Gaga). Someone made a statement that a non-popular artist could never outsell a popular one. I used two artists as an example.

Saying that a popular artist could never be outsold by an artist that's not as popular is absurd. By that logic, there's no way Drake or Wayne could've outsold Kanye and Jay's Watch The Throne.

Why do you consider Lady Gaga popular in the first place?

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Nobody said she wasn't. She was an example of an artist not as popular can outsell an artist that is more popular (Gaga). Someone made a statement that a non-popular artist could never outsell a popular one. I used two artists as an example.

Saying that a popular artist could never be outsold by an artist that's not as popular is absurd. By that logic, there's no way Drake or Wayne could've outsold Kanye and Jay's Watch The Throne.

dont think we forgot about that dumb azz list u posted

 

[JustCKing]

Why do you consider Lady Gaga popular in the first place?

I don't listen to her music, but I visit different music websites. I remember seeing Gaga almost always at number one as the most played artist.