so, Ross did 56k in his 2nd week

[kermit da hustla]

ross do not rap about the streets bruh

he doesn't?

 

[King Karim]

This is why I am shyting on you Ross Stanleys....y'all made it about sales...look at what this retard Cbanks was posting on my SOHH page

cbanks366
Jeezy's album drops in 13 days
He just dropped another pointless mixtape
Nobody cares about him anymore
Rick Ross, Yo Gotti, Gucci, Waka, & 2 Chainz have taken his spot
TIP also just came home

How you go from the BP3 tour to barely doing shows at hole in the wall clubs
Did I mention Yo Gotti took his spot
That single with Lil Jon?
5 singles?
Hes not going gold!
Keep searching my threads and negin me
Jeezy's album is going to get NEG reviews (just like his single ! )

if this was Facebook I would tag him

 

[Lavish]

"Buzz" is so difficult to measure though, and buzz = sales has been proven to be a faulty equation.

A whole lotta people like Ross, but not enough to buy the album it seems.

I've said it before, the one thing that will move units is a fanbase invested in the individual. More than hit songs, more than "buzz", if people fukk with an artist on some sort of personal level, there will be $.

Jeezy may not get talked about half as much as Ross, and obviously isn't as visible, but the people who do listen to his music live and die by it.

It's the same reason J. Cole sold what he did and Big Sean did what he did when Sean was seemingly a much bigger "star".

you hit the nail on the head with this one

this is exactly right. and the reason Ross fans dont fukk wit him on a personal level, is because Ross isnt personal. he almost never talks about personal issues.

the only noticable time I can think of was on Wale's ambition. which is coincidentally my favourite ross verse.

dude refuses to talk about his life...I been trying to find this interview where the interviewer asks ross more then once, if he raps about his personal life, and ross said he rather rap about the shyt he seen...

 

[ROFL_GUY]

RECOVERY AND 21 are the highest selling albums in YEARS....

what do they have in common?

both are incredibly PERSONAL albums both artist display their weaknesses their faults adversity from a personal point of view that PEOPLE can relate to.. on a personal LEVEL...


THE KEY to having ahuge FANBASE is for them to connect with you personally.. EM wrote about addiction.. adele wrote about the PAIN OF LOVE

both UNIVERSAL CONCEPTS..


UNIVERSAL SUBJECT MATTER -- that ANYONE can relate to black,white,rich,poor,christian,muslim etc...

Adele and EM album both have a STRONG MESSAGE OF HOPE


ROSS is like "character" theres no personal connection.. thats WHY.. he will NEVER see PLAT.. the streets will fukk with him because there not lookin for that in music.. they just want soe background music for their fukkerry..

not saying ROSS doesnt make goood MUSIC.. hes GREAT @ what he does.. that street shyt.. thats his gift and his curse...

 

[kermit da hustla]

you hit the nail on the head with this one

this is exactly right. and the reason Ross fans dont fukk wit him on a personal level, is because Ross isnt personal. he almost never talks about personal issues.

the only noticable time I can think of was on Wale's ambition. which is coincidentally my favourite ross verse.

dude refuses to talk about his life...I been trying to find this interview where the interviewer asks ross more then once, if he raps about his personal life, and ross said he rather rap about the shyt he seen...

how do you know he isn't rapping about his life? do you people even listen to ross? or, as i suspect, do you draw these asinine conclusions based off what you assume rather than what you've actually heard? ross gets personal all of the fukking time. just because YOU choose not to listen, or have taken it upon yourself to dismiss his artistic license, does not mean ross isn't getting personal.

 

[King Karim]

you hit the nail on the head with this one

this is exactly right. and the reason Ross fans dont fukk wit him on a personal level, is because Ross isnt personal. he almost never talks about personal issues.

the only noticable time I can think of was on Wale's ambition. which is coincidentally my favourite ross verse.

dude refuses to talk about his life...I been trying to find this interview where the interviewer asks ross more then once, if he raps about his personal life, and ross said he rather rap about the shyt he seen...

bc rapping about being a standout Football player, great student, going to college on a football scholarship, getting a great job as a CO at a very young age isn't appealing to the youngsterz...they would call him a square if he TRULY rapped about his REAL LIFE

 

[kermit da hustla]

RECOVERY AND 21 are the highest selling albums in YEARS....

what do they have in common?

both are incredibly PERSONAL albums both artist display their weaknesses their faults adversity from a personal point of view that PEOPLE can relate to.. on a personal LEVEL...


THE KEY to having ahuge FANBASE is for them to connect with you personally.. EM wrote about addiction.. adele wrote about the PAIN OF LOVE

both UNIVERSAL CONCEPTS..


UNIVERSAL SUBJECT MATTER -- that ANYONE can relate to black,white,rich,poor,christian,muslim etc...

Adele and EM album both have a STRONG MESSAGE OF HOPE

never listened to 21, but recovery is corny. that's for white people.

 

[Lavish]

how do you know he isn't rapping about his life? do you people even listen to ross? or, as i suspect, do you draw these asinine conclusions based off what you assume rather than what you've actually heard? ross gets personal all of the fukking time. just because YOU choose not to listen, or have taken it upon yourself to dismiss his artistic license, does not mean ross isn't getting personal.

if you read my whole post down to the last line, maybe then you'd know

 

[kermit da hustla]

bc rapping about being a standout Football player, great student, going to college on a football scholarship, getting a great job as a CO at a very young age isn't appealing to the youngsterz...they would call him a square if he TRULY rapped about his REAL LIFE

he has rapped about his football years. again, do you people actually listen to his albums?

 

[King Karim]

he has rapped about his football years. again, do you people actually listen to his albums?

dude had a half a bar dedicated to that FOH

 

[kermit da hustla]

dude had a half a bar dedicated to that FOH

you dumb motherfukker, he makes references to football in a lot of his songs. he'll just throw it out there, and you know it's because he used to play. so, the idea that he's running away from his football past is ridiculous.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

It always cracks me up to see people talk about subject matter and deep concepts then you realize the artist they listen to are 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, and Young Jeezy.

 

[King Biko]

he doesn't?

no he doesnt. The shyt ross talks about is not whats going on in the streets bruh. He talks about dope but not in a street way, He be giving you some Fugazi kingpin tales.

and btw jeezy dropped a better album and way more street








its hard 2 relate 2 ross, jeezy is very relatable even 2 nikkas who not in the streets

 

[ROFL_GUY]

never listened to 21, but recovery is corny. that's for white people.

addiction is only a white thing?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SkuZfcS0xM]Eminem - Going Through Changes [Recovery][HQ][Uncensored][Lyrics] - YouTube[/ame]

Lately I really, feel like I'm rolling for delph like Philly,
I feel like I'm losing control of myself, I sincerely,
Apologize if all that I sound like is I'm complaining,
But life keeps on complicating, an' I'm debating,
On leaving this world, this evening, even my girls,
Can see I'm grievin', I try and hide it,
But I can't, why do I act like I'm all high and mighty,
When inside, I'm dying, I am finally realizing I need help.
I can't do it by myself, too weak, 2 weeks I've been having ups and downs,
Going through peaks and valleys, dilly dallying,
Around with the idea, of ending the shyt right here.
I'm hatin' my reflection, I walk around the house tryin' to fight mirrors,
I can't stand what I look like, yeah, I look fat, but what do I care?
I give a fukk, only thing I fear, is Hailie,
I'm afraid if I close my eyes I might see her,


I lock myself in the bedroom, bathroom, nappin' at noon,
Yeah dad's in a bad mood, he's always snappin' at you.
Marshall what happened at you, you can't stop with these pills,
And you've fallen off with your skills, and your own fans are laughin' at you.
It become a problem you're too p*ssy to tackle, get up,
Be a man, stand, a real man woulda had this shyt handled.
Know you just had your heart ripped out and crushed,
They say Proof just flipped out, homie just swift out and bust,
Nah, it ain't like Doody to do that,
He wouldn't fukkin' shoot at, no-body, he fights first,
But dwellin' on it only makes the night worse,
Now I'm poppin Vic's, perks and Methadone pills.
Yeah Em, tight verse, you killed it,
fukkin' drug dealers hang around me like "yes man",
And they gon' do whatever I says when, I says it,
It's in their best interest to protect their investment.
And I just lost my fukkin' best friend, so fukk it, I guess then...


My friends can't understand this new me,
That's understandable man, but just think how bananas you'd be,
You'd be an animal too, if you were trapped in this fame and caged in it like a zoo.
And everybody's lookin' at you, what you want me to do,
I'm startin' to live like a recluse and the truth is,
Fame startin' to give me an excuse, to be at a all time low.
I sit alone in my home theatre, watchin' the same damn DVD,
Of the first tour, the last tour, he was still alive.
And it hurt sore, fast forward, sleepin' pills'll make me feel alright.
And if I'm still awake in the middle of the night,
I just take a couple more, yeah you're motherfukkin' right,
I ain't slowin' down for no one, I am almost homeward bound.
Almost in a coma, yeah homie come on, dole 'em out
Daddy, don't you die on me, daddy, better hold your ground.
fukk, don't I know the sound of that voice,
Yeah baby hold me down.

[Eminem]
Wake up in the hospital, full of tubes, plus somehow I'm pullin' through.
Swear when I come back I'ma be bulletproof.
I'ma do it just for Proof, I think I should state a few,
Facts, cause I may not get a chance again to say the truth.
shyt it just hit me that what if I would notta made it through?
I think about the things I would have never got to say to you,
I'd never get to make it right, so here's what I came to do.
Hailie this one is for you, Whitney and Alaina too,
I still love your mother, that'll never change,
Think about her every day, we just could never get it together.
Hey, wish there was a better way, for me to say it,
But I swear on everything, I'd do anything for her on any day.
There are just too many things, to explain, when it rains,
Guess it pours, yes it does, wish there wasn't any pain.
But I can't pretend there ain't, I ain't placin' any blame,
I ain't pointin' fingers, heaven knows i've never been a saint.
I know it just feels like we just pissed away our history,
But just today, I looked at your picture, almost if to say,
I miss you self consciously, wish it didn't end this way.
But I just had to get away, don't know why,
I don't know what else to say, I guess I'm..

 

[King Karim]

you dumb motherfukker, he makes references to football in a lot of his songs. he'll just throw it out there, and you know it's because he used to play. so, the idea that he's running away from his football past is ridiculous.

again he drops a half a bar here and there, just like he dropped a half a bar about his CO past...cmon My Man..keep it real