Read carefully from the previous post:
maybe
you should read it carefully. nowhere does it say water fluoridation does not play a role in excessive fluoride intake across in the united states.
the ability of excessive fluoride intake to occur without fluoridated water in this single community
does not equal
water fluoridation does not play a role in excessive fluoride intake in the entire united states.
furthermore,
the fact excessive fluoride intake can indeed occur without the aid of fluoridated water further reenforces the original premise of this thread, which is that water fluoridation is an outdated practice for modern day america and needs to be abolished. it's common sense... if we're already at risk for possibly ingesting too much fluoride from the other sources besides water, why add even more fluoride to the public water supply where we are sure to ingest it several times a day?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation
Fluoride's effects depend on the total daily intake of fluoride from all sources. Drinking water is typically the largest source;[12] other methods of fluoride therapy include fluoridation of toothpaste, salt, and milk.[13]
it's over for you right here...
but let's continue.
60% of the United States is NOT fluoridated to EPA standards.
1. where are you getting this stat from
2. hypothetically, even if 60% of the US has water fluoridated at levels above .7ppm,
doesn't that mean we should focus on removing fluoride from the water instead of adding it, since anything above .7ppm is considered harmful?
Also:
Improper dosage from other sources in fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas leading to fluorosis is confirmed by the study. There is NO indication that properly fluoridated community water played a role.
1. the study you posted was alright but it's nothing definitive, and i already broke down the reasons why it's not definitive. it used parent questionnaires to verify it's data cmon sun that's speculative at best.
2. even if the study were definitive, improper dosage occurring in one non fluoridated area
still does NOT equal water fluoridation not contributing to improper dosage for americans in other areas.
Why was the level changed?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says dental fluorosis is highest among adolescents between the ages of 12 an 15. One reason for the increase in fluorosis: Americans now have access to fluoride from a variety of sources, including toothpaste, mouth rinses and prescription supplements, the Department of Health and Human Services says.
1. "one reason" does not equate to "only reason," so stop equating the two to fit your agenda.
2. according to you, water fluoridation has no impact on excessive fluoride intake, so why would the government lower water fluoridation levels to try and combat fluorosis? do you see how your original assertion is so ridiculous that you will never be able to answer this question?
There is no study that states or proves that properly fluoridated water is the cause of fluorosis or any other health/cosmetic issues.
it's not the the sole cause, no. but that was never the debate. the debate is whether we should continue the practice of water fluoridation. and imo everything presented in this thread only further reenforces that we should stop, at least until more definitive testing on the long term affects can be determined.
again i'll ask you: do you know how much sodium fluoride the average person ingests in areas with fluoridated water? what happens to the fluoride once it passes the mouth and enters the body? does it accumulate? if so, at what rate, and in what specific areas does it accumulate? and what are the physiological effects of accumulation in these areas? at what rate does the kidney get rid of excess fluoride? does the rate fluctuate with body type? and so on...
these are the questions we should be asking. and the fact you dont know the answers but yet still advocate for water fluoridation as a practice
without questioning it is why i call you a psuedo-skeptic.
You're a fool. Stopping water fluoridation would put more people at risk for developing fluorosis since the adjustment accomplished by fluoridation actually LOWERS the amount of naturally-occurring fluoride for the majority of the population receiving optimally-fluoridated community water.
this has got to be a new low.
the practice of public water fluoridation only
adds fluoride to water that doesn't have enough. it's not a program that adds fluoridated water to already over-fluoridated water to try and balance it out somehow.
and i'm guessing thats the source of your confusion. no offense but the ignorance in your posts is probably due to the fact you dont fully understand the concepts being discussed, as demonstrated by your statement above.
and it's all good... because ultimately this isn't about trying to win an argument on a message board, i just want to make sure the people reading this message board are getting the right information concerning their health.
and im positive your performance in this thread has assured that