so kobe has 12 games in offs where he scored over 40..and bron got eleven 40pt games

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FreedS[ohh]lave;386354 said:
Wheres Lebrons Shaq? :what:

having bosh and wade > having shaquille

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having bosh and wade > having shaquille

Bron's performance last year was comparable to Kobe's first Finals performance. No Bron didnt' have the great overtime period like Kobe did but that's pretty much all Kobe did during that series because he was hurt and even missed a game and yet his team still managed to win rather easily in 6. Bron's never been on a team that could win with him playing anything less than great and with the exception of last year even him playing great wasn't enough.
 

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Bron's performance last year was comparable to Kobe's first Finals performance. No Bron didnt' have the great overtime period like Kobe did but that's pretty much all Kobe did during that series because he was hurt and even missed a game and yet his team still managed to win rather easily in 6. Bron's never been on a team that could win with him playing anything less than great and with the exception of last year even him playing great wasn't enough.

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Kobe was injured that first finals, and still had a classic close out performance in game 4.

Lebron just sucked
 

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Heres the funny thing...If Bron on had let's say 4 40 pt games and won a couple titles while playing like a fraction of himself he would be worshipped. If they had won last year, like they very well could have, with him playing the exact same way somehow people would have found a way to make it different. Somehow it would have been spun into a great all around performance because he doesn't need to score to make his team win or some bullshyt like that. It's not about logic, it's not about judging players on their own merit...it's about the narrative. It's understandable with the media because they get paid for that shyt but for regular every day nikkas to regurgitate that bullshyt (when it's convenient of course) is :snoop:.

What kind of dumb shyt is this? Yeah if your team wins then nobody cares about you playing an all around game. But when your team is going down in flames and yet you still play hot potato with the basketball then of course you'll get criticized.
 

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What kind of dumb shyt is this? Yeah if your team wins then nobody cares about you playing an all around game. But when your team is going down in flames and yet you still play hot potato with the basketball then of course you'll get criticized.

And all the criticism he recieved last year was perfectly valid. I have never defended last year. That's not what has happened throughout his whole career though. He's played well enough to win a title or multiple titles throughout his career he just hasn't been in the right situations. Titles are more so about good fortune than how well an individual plays.
 

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Stop it breh, don't make me neg you even more than you've been negged. No sane nikka would choose Bosh and Wade over a prime Shaq, get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt.

i want to be negged though, it's the reason why i stay in red :stylin: i still stand by my statement

shaq through 2000 - 2003 > but otherwise what I said was true
 

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From 05'-10' against 50-win teams:

Kobe - 30.0 ppg, 46.7% FG, 57.0% TS, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg
Bron - 28.0 ppg, 42.6% FG, 52.4% TS, 8.2 rpg, 7.3 apg

1, its pretty even.

2.. against 50-win teams :shaq2:

were talkinbout what.. 6-8teams top? there fore few matches only... heck one migh have 3 times the numbers of matches compared to the others..


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And all the criticism he recieved last year was perfectly valid. I have never defended last year. That's not what has happened throughout his whole career though. He's played well enough to win a title or multiple titles throughout his career he just hasn't been in the right situations. Titles are more so about good fortune than how well an individual plays.

Yeah but you used last year as an example. When your team wins then why criticize how somebody played. But when your team loses then yeah people will search for what could've been differently. And if a superstar player is playing tentative late in the game then that will be the first thing pointed out.

But yeah it is some bullshyt that if Lebron at this point passes for a game winner it still somehow means he's afraid of the big moment. Meanwhile if it's a Durant or Kobe or Melo the narrative is that they used their pedigree as a closer to set up their teammates. In that regard Lebron definitely gets shyt on coverage wise.

Even if he wins a title I don't think he'll get full credit unless he hits a game winner somewhere in the middle of it.
 
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