If anyone takes Bill Maher serious they have already lost. 
so if Jesus is "GOD"
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Adam + Eve is 2 equally 1 if you think about it.
Adam (Atom) and Eve (Evolution)
Atom ( 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons) - Beast
Evolution - cell division (be fruitful and multiple)
The story is in the words really.
Great explanation. Thank you.
What are your thoughts on when G-d was looking for Adam & Eve in the garden. When he found them, they were ashamed and realized that they were naked, so they were clothed.
Were they really energy/light and the clothes were flesh???
And if energy never dies, just transfers...is 'Reincarnation' really a thing???
And if polygamy, and incest were the methods used to procreate the earth you would still have this same issue with CAC Darwinian evolution. So you have defeated your own argument.
Im guessing you got held back a semester or two because of Biology...or you dropped it as soon as you had the chanceYou see in evolution the beneficial DNA mutations are gradual and passed from one generation to the next in a logarithmic curve and after several generations you have a new species
you dont suddenly have two totally new organisms pop up out of the blue and they are forced to inbreed
You see in evolution the beneficial DNA mutations are gradual and passed from one generation to the next in a logarithmic curve and after several generations you have a new species
you dont suddenly have two totally new organisms pop up out of the blue and they are forced to inbreed
If you choose to believe the lie of Darwinian evolution you are free to do so. Also, throwing shade does not strengthen your argument in the least.
P.S. The complexity of DNA debunks your position.Theres plenty of complex structures that form in nature without any evidence of intervention..like this fractal snowflake..If you choose to believe the lie of Darwinian evolution you are free to do so. Also, throwing shade does not strengthen your argument in the least.
made up of random but self repeating sequences ...theres a whole type of intresting math that analyses how chaos can lead to complexity
Im not throwing shade... Clearly you dont understand the issue if you claim incest is also a factor in evolution...you have the impression of a common ancestor as one or two people..and this is quite likely because you were given a bible BEFORE you read a science book.
Indeed thats the only reason that religions like Christianity and Islam have survived so long..they scramble children's minds so they can have a lifelong follower...I hope you free yourself from superstition one day
Theres plenty of complex structures that form in nature without any evidence of intervention..like this fractal snowflake..
made up of random but self repeating sequences ...theres a whole type of intresting math that analyses how chaos can lead to complexity
Im not throwing shade... Clearly you dont understand the issue if you claim incest is also a factor in evolution...you have the impression of a common ancestor as one or two people..and this is quite likely because you were given a bible BEFORE you read a science book.
Indeed thats the only reason that religions like Christianity and Islam have survived so long..they scramble children's minds so they can have a lifelong follower...I hope you free yourself from superstition one day
Continue believing a single celled organism evolved given the complexity of over 60,000 proteins of over 100 different types of configurations in all the right places...
Continue believing a single celled organism evolved given the complexity of over 60,000 proteins of over 100 different types of configurations in all the right places...
now youre just regurgitating catch phrases you dont really understand ...In very simple forms of life, such as bacteria, the entire genome is packaged into a single chromosomethis is e coli...not the simplest but you get the picture
where are those 60,000 proteins in 100 different types of configurations???take your time ..no rush
this is e coli...not the simplest but you get the picture
take your time ..no rush
Are semantical games really necessary?
You understand exactly what I'm arguing. But, for the sake of those who will read this forum I'll break it down in elementary terms.
The likelihood that a single protein molecule could arise by CHANCE is nil.
Furthermore the belief that mindless and unguided processes eventually resulted in self replicating entities that encode information (DNA) is delusional at best.
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God isn't human at all. Christ isn't a literal son but a man that attained enlightenment at such a high level that he became much than a corporal being. It is in the Bible if you read between the lines.
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None of the Jewish prophecies ever said that there be a literal God on Earth lol. Just a savior to show man enlightenment and free him from the shackles on this Earth (materialism and flawed institutions)
Someone just needs to explain how non living matter gave rise to living matter, and how a non living life form evolved into all of the life forms we have today as a result of an unguided process driven by pure chance.
Are semantical games really necessary?
You understand exactly what I'm arguing. But, for the sake of those who will read this forum I'll break it down in elementary terms.
The likelihood that a single protein molecule could arise by CHANCE is nil.
Furthermore the belief that mindless and unguided processes eventually resulted in self replicating entities that encode information (DNA) is delusional at best.
i wouldnt put any money on that if i was youBTW this is the theory of abiogenesis still has nothing to do with disproving or proving evolution..i dont see why youre merging them
Evolution is not discredited whether the first cells came from abiogenesis, a meteor strike or even the snot spit out by a visiting alien who was vacationing in earths newly formed oceans...all evolution does is explain the variety of life on the planet...how those first cells got here is not part of it
At various times in history people have created extremely human ideas about God, and it confused them.
In early (Biblical) Judaism, God was all sorts of difficult-to-define things at once. In Biblical Judaism, you can see God dwelling in Heaven and yet being active on Earth in his Tabernacle presence (Shekinah) simultaneously, God as Wisdom, God as Logos, God present in the Torah, God as the active Spirit working within people. I believe that Jesus was human, but that he manifested God's presence/wisdom/logos/spirit in a unique way that no human ever had or ever again will.
You think of God as a person, and it's obviously impossible to say, "He can't be two people at once." But when you realize that God goes way beyond human-like people categories, you see that God can be personal, yet God can be a lot more too.
The super-strict views of God in modern Judaism ("There must be only one God in our strict monotheism therefore Jesus can't be God") were a reaction AGAINST Christianity, they're weren't the definition of monotheism until after Judaism began being threatened by Christianity. Mohammed, much more familiar with Jews than with orthodox Christians, picked up on that same misunderstanding. God is one, there is no division or animosity or separation within God, but God can manifest in a lot of ways through a lot of things.
In early (Biblical) Judaism, God was all sorts of difficult-to-define things at once. In Biblical Judaism, you can see God dwelling in Heaven and yet being active on Earth in his Tabernacle presence (Shekinah) simultaneously, God as Wisdom, God as Logos, God present in the Torah, God as the active Spirit working within people. I believe that Jesus was human, but that he manifested God's presence/wisdom/logos/spirit in a unique way that no human ever had or ever again will.
You think of God as a person, and it's obviously impossible to say, "He can't be two people at once." But when you realize that God goes way beyond human-like people categories, you see that God can be personal, yet God can be a lot more too.
The super-strict views of God in modern Judaism ("There must be only one God in our strict monotheism therefore Jesus can't be God") were a reaction AGAINST Christianity, they're weren't the definition of monotheism until after Judaism began being threatened by Christianity. Mohammed, much more familiar with Jews than with orthodox Christians, picked up on that same misunderstanding. God is one, there is no division or animosity or separation within God, but God can manifest in a lot of ways through a lot of things.
