So I guess Mitt Romney really shoulda won
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
That sure is retarded. My family and I are nearing that $250K, and we're always thankful that we're not struggling like most. We bytch about our credit card, property taxes and car payments, but that's a luxury.
Brown_Pride
All Star
If you're close to 250k then you really shouldn't be complaining about taxes
I hate when people who don't have money tell people with money how to think/feel
If dude had your attitude he'd have your money :biggaplease::biggaplease::biggaplease:
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Let me guess, the "right" way is the GOP way? Hack n slash through social programs, eliminate taxes for white male business owners and quadruple the size of the military
You "its the other side's fault" idiots kill me
:nard: c/s my breh. I hate dudes who insinuate a lot and say very little when it comes to mass generalization statements. Yes, the vast majority of Coli and HL posters are fairly liberal, but in what way does that make criticism of the GOP's filibuster grandstanding any less valid? Getting it done our way? What the fukk does that even mean in context? In our current political environment there are two mass solutions, cut spending and raising taxes, and dems have shown themselves fairly willing to compromise over their part in spending. But the GOP are unwilling to brook ANY change on taxes until just yesterday.
It's so disingenuous friend.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I'm willing to pay more in taxes if I knew it was going to help towards things that matter. But I'm not seeing that.
On a local level, the schools in my area are still substandard. to go with an increase in taxes, my property taxes (where I live in NJ it's the 3rd highest in the country) continue to increase. Exactly what do I see being produced out of this?
I thought we were talking about federal income taxes?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I know....my thing is...we're already getting killed on a local level and seeing its ineffectiveness. It leads me to believe that an increase on the federal level will follow suit.
This taxes talk is ridiculous.
It's the same way my mom looks at her employers (shes a nanny). She sees how much they make and when they spend $1100 to fix her car for her (because she drives their boys around in it) and then don't give her a Christmas bonus and make mention of money being tight, she goes off the deepend about how they don't know how good they have it and blah blah blah.
The amount someone else earns doesn't equate to how you manage your money when it's 4 x's shorter.
Some family who makes 300k with two earners working full time, with 2 kids and only one in public schools....if they live in NYC or some large metropolis, doesn't mean that they couldn't be stretched every month to keep it all together and maintain a quality of life they went to school for/worked hard to obtain.
It's the same way my mom looks at her employers (shes a nanny). She sees how much they make and when they spend $1100 to fix her car for her (because she drives their boys around in it) and then don't give her a Christmas bonus and make mention of money being tight, she goes off the deepend about how they don't know how good they have it and blah blah blah.
The amount someone else earns doesn't equate to how you manage your money when it's 4 x's shorter.
Some family who makes 300k with two earners working full time, with 2 kids and only one in public schools....if they live in NYC or some large metropolis, doesn't mean that they couldn't be stretched every month to keep it all together and maintain a quality of life they went to school for/worked hard to obtain.
You're high. Absolutely high.
The limit of what we would consider upper-middle class in this country for a family would be 200k, and that's if you in an urban area or affluent suburb, and both parents are college graduates. You pull down 200k in my hometown, then you're either living in a super-classy beachfront condo on the wealthy part of town, or the nicest house in your gated suburb. 400k will land you FIRMLY in the wealthy part of town.
You dont even have to be led to believe. The evidence is there. Look at the state of our infrastructure. Look at the decline in investment into research, development and education reform. Look at the grossly disporportionate defense spending.
And then to add insult to injury, 1 out of 2 people in Crimsontider's tax bracket don't even pay federal income taxes. And the folks who do pay pay nowhere near their marginal rates. But they want to tell the 1%ers, who pay damn near their marginal rates, they need to pay MORE. For what? So the middle class can continue to pay nothing???
People talk about how any tax increase on the middle class will be the death of the country, I dont know if I believe it. American families spent an avg of $700 on Christmas this year. Avg American eats about 500 more calories a day than they need to. During the housing boom a lot of Americans overbought, or tapped into the bubble equity of their homes to buy useless shyt. This isn't to say its all our fault- housing, healthcare and higher education costs are out of control largely due to bad govt policy- but there is a lot of shyt we are doing that doesn't help
I would say if Americans really scaled back on some disciplined austerity shyt the avg household could save another $2K-3K/yr. Theres 137M tax paying households in the US. An extra $1000 from every home would cover the deficit and is well within the range of what the avg American family could afford. $83/month
Yeah man being in that bracket where you make too much to be government assisted and not rich enough to be "rich" sucks but it is a blessing to complain about shyt like that instead of your next meal or a roof over your head. I tell cheapskate wife all the time we are Upper Middle Class whether she likes it or not and that in some ways it is harder on us since we really get no breaks tax wise.
But again, we know we're
so I'm not complaining one bit.