So how much of a success has NXT been in developing new stars?

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Nxt is wwe

They are treated completely different. Even if NXT was capable of creating a legit draw (beyond indy level gates), he has to go to the main roster and succeed there. And no matter how well he did or learned in NXT, he's doomed if WWE's main roster creative team and promotion machine fails to capitalize on what NXT created.

Even with guys that had success in the indys and overseas and that worked in NXT, they have to go through WWE's main roster.

My point is NXT can't create a star, they can give a wrestler the tools and knowledge to have what it takes to become one, but at the end of the day his stardom will depend on what happens on the main roster.
 

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I think NXT is doing a fine job developing talent..most of these people would be highly paid and successful in other companies (at least comparable to most top non WWE stars). Creative is just lazy as fukk. They've dropped the ball on countless wrestlers.
 
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Sasha, then. Vince sees Reigns as a star. Everyone except Vince (maybe) sees Sasha as a star. At least one of them must be a star.

Sasha could one day be a star, but that would require the company actually giving her a platform.

And even still, I don't know how big she'd really be. Could she really transcend the company?
 

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Sasha could one day be a star, but that would require the company actually giving her a platform.

And even still, I don't know how big she'd really be. Could she really transcend the company?


Having a mainstream star who transcends the wrestling industry isn't something you can manufacture. There are times when mainstream culture is willing to get into wrestling, and there are times when it isn't. You don't get a Stone Cold Steve Austin if the zeitgeist isn't ready for a Stone Cold Steve Austin. And when it's ready for a Stone Cold Steve Austin, you also get an nWo, a Rock, a Goldberg, etc. If any of those people peaked in 1993 instead of 96-01, they're just popular wrestlers rather than transcendent mainstream attractions.

With that being said, I don't think you can judge NXT or any developmental enterprise by whether or not it manages to produce one of those guys. They could develop The Rock 2.0 and he won't transcend wrestling if the timing isn't right.

Could Sasha Banks be a wrestling-industry-scale star, though? Someone who can main event WrestleMania? I think absolutely yes.
 
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Having a mainstream star who transcends the wrestling industry isn't something you can manufacture. There are times when mainstream culture is willing to get into wrestling, and there are times when it isn't. You don't get a Stone Cold Steve Austin if the zeitgeist isn't ready for a Stone Cold Steve Austin. And when it's ready for a Stone Cold Steve Austin, you also get an nWo, a Rock, a Goldberg, etc. If any of those people peaked in 1993 instead of 96-01, they're just popular wrestlers rather than transcendent mainstream attractions.

With that being said, I don't think you can judge NXT or any developmental enterprise by whether or not it manages to produce one of those guys. They could develop The Rock 2.0 and he won't transcend wrestling if the timing isn't right.

Could Sasha Banks be a wrestling-industry-scale star, though? Someone who can main event WrestleMania? I think absolutely yes.

then he obviously he isn't the rock 2.0.

stars make themselves stars.

if someone on rock or austin's level came up now, people would be watching.
 

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stars make themselves stars.

if someone on rock or austin's level came up now, people would be watching.

If that were the case then you would expect mainstream stars from wrestling to be randomly distributed over time, not clustered in specific eras as they tend to be.


then he obviously he isn't the rock 2.0.
You can't uncouple the star from the era he came up in. Would someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger be as big of a deal if he came out now instead of in the 80s? Would someone like, idk, Eric Clapton be a household name if he came out playing that technically-accomplished-if-ultimately-derivative blues during an age when young adults are more inclined to be into EDM than a guy with a Les Paul and a stack of Marshall amps?

If The Rock came out in an era when a guy like The Rock isn't what mainstream culture thinks is cool, then he's not becoming a transcendent star.
 

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You can't uncouple the star from the era he came up in. Would someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger be as big of a deal if he came out now instead of in the 80s? Would someone like, idk, Eric Clapton be a household name if he came out playing that technically-accomplished-if-ultimately-derivative blues during an age when young adults are more inclined to be into EDM than a guy with a Les Paul and a stack of Marshall amps?

If The Rock came out in an era when a guy like The Rock isn't what mainstream culture thinks is cool, then he's not becoming a transcendent star.

Exactly. I always say would the Beatles be popular if they came out now? Or would they get laughed at by making cheesy ass pop music? :lolbron:
 
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