So how much longer until Cacs take over Hip-Hop completely?

[Blackout]

The hood has all kinds of black people in it. The problem is that the hard-headed ones silence the "nerds" and the "lames" that ain't about ignorant shyt. Even before CACs come to the picture, its like the alternative route gets shut off.

Of course the hood literally has all kinds of people in it but you know as well as me that a black person who is successful and nerdy in the hood wouldn't be called hood.

Let's be real here.

Which is why I separate based on hood vs non hood.

 

[Matt504]

Jimmy Iovine wants another 50 Cent in this era to profit off of. Just that he found out that a bum like Keef ain't taking orders and rather be dumb in the streets of Chi-raq.

so you're telling me a white man is looking for another Black man like 50 cent, who's willing to rap about money, drugs, and violence in the Black community, so he can profit off of them?

 

[Wild self]

so you're telling me a white man is looking for another Black man like 50 cent, who's willing to rap about money, drugs, and violence in the Black community, so he can profit off of them?

lol

But positive MC with lyrical skill and a sense of innovation is too hard to market in this day and age. People want to make most $$$ off of the least amount of effort and discipline.

 

[Matt504]

lol

But positive MC with lyrical skill and a sense of innovation is too hard to market in this day and age. People want to make most $$$ off of the least amount of effort and discipline.

a positive MC with lyrical skill and sense of innovation is too hard to market in this day and age because 20 years ago, White people started flooding money into the pockets of rappers who were willing to make Gangster rap.

The pioneering West Coast artist explained not only how his recording home of 20 years, Jive Records, prevented him from continuing to release songs about poverty, the effects of drug addiction and police brutality that had become the counterbalance to his “Freaky Tales,” but Short also shared his theory that all the major labels conspired to keep conscious Hip Hop off the radio airwaves.

...

And, I’m not gonna blame this on anybody, but I was actually being pushed into a direction where I would talk to people at Jive [Records], I would go talk to the President, Barry Weiss, and he was like – I always wanted to do these [side] projects like the E-40 duet album, which was one they never would let me do. Jive would never let me and E-40 do an album together. They kept making excuses and so it never got done. I also wanted to do an album that was filled with songs like “The Ghetto,” “Life Is…Too Short,” “Money In The Ghetto,” “I Want To Be Free.” I wanted to do a whole album of positive Too Short songs, just to keep that balance. I had made a verbal deal with Barry Weiss, where he was like, “Right now would be the perfect time, you should do like the raunchiest Too Short album ever – the album cover, the songs, just do a dirty fukkin’ Too Short album.” This is the executive running the company advising me to put out an entire album of just cursing and sex.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...stry-wide-plot-to-shut-down-conscious-hip-hop

Barry Weiss

 

[Wild self]

a positive MC with lyrical skill and sense of innovation is too hard to market in this day and age because 20 years ago, White people started flooding money into the pockets of rappers who were willing to make Gangster rap.


http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...stry-wide-plot-to-shut-down-conscious-hip-hop

Barry Weiss

Its true. Just that now, the negativity is numbing our senses and the excessive use of sex/cursing doesn't do a thing to us anymore. That is why the pop music industry is falling apart: because we overused shock value to the point where nothing can us anymore.

 

[Pool_Shark]

Thread reminds me of this Bruno Mars interview. This was only a few years ago to.

Three years ago, Bruno Mars became a worldwide superstar with a string of smash hits. But before that, he struggled for years to make it, and reveals that one of the barriers to his becoming a pop star was his race.


Bruno is Puerto Rican, Jewish and Filipino. In the cover story of the new issue of Entertainment Weekly, he says that when he and his songwriting partners came up with a song called "Nothin' on You," Bruno figured it was his ticket to the big time. But when he brought it to a music industry decision-maker -- a guy he won't name -- the reaction shocked him.


"He goes, 'Oh man, oh man, what a song,'" recalls Bruno. But then, he says the guy told him, "You know what kind of white artist we could break with this? Blond hair, blue eyes, we could make this kid the next thing!"


"It was just kinda sad," Bruno tells EW. "It was like, 'Man, what about the kid that played you the song and wrote it and produced it...what about that guy?'"

 

[Blackout]

Thread reminds me of this Bruno Mars interview. This was only a few years ago to.

Doesn't sound surprising at all that this happened.

Benefits both their wallets and their racial oppression.

 

[smahzay]

Whites started gangsta rap....http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=785311

 

[Matt504]

Thread reminds me of this Bruno Mars interview. This was only a few years ago to.

there are many more stories out there exactly like this. they would've given that song to 2012 Bieber in a heartbeat.

2013 Bieber sounds like a Black artist from the 90's now.

this is how shyt works.



2013 Bieber

 

[Pool_Shark]

there are many more stories out there exactly like this. they would've given that song to 2012 Bieber in a heartbeat.

2013 Bieber sounds like a Black artist from the 90's now.

this is how shyt works.



2013 Bieber

So many songs they wasted on this kid Can't sing for shyt.

 

[Matt504]

So many songs they wasted on this kid Can't sing for shyt.

might not be able to sing, but he's white and has the right look.

he's got girls AND boys of all races praising him, he's a golden cash cow

 

[SamuraiFlamenco]

I don't think anything has so negatively affected how most people view blacks as hip hop. It has made all of us look like criminals, degenerates, and hoodlums. Part of the "negative" stereotypes that we all have to deal with are reinforced with hip-hop/rap. It's so bad now that not acting like this is considered "acting white" and gets you shunned by blacks and non-blacks alike.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I agree with you until the Kendrick/ Cole parts. What super-skilled rapper is out under the age of 30 that is better than them?

the fact that you think kendrick & cole are super-skilled, does nothing but prove my point.

i can pull any ole random cat that raps off the block to rap circles around them.

White people arn't the only ones to blame tho... alot of these wack ass rappers like Waka Flocka get hyped up by black folks first... and then the hipsters jump on it and then dudes wanna shyt white folks for it.. but it goes both ways.

You also gotta blame the non rappin ass negroes that been putting abums out and getting props... Liike Master P... and I'll admit I'm even guilty of listening to and liking some of his shyt as well.. but cats like him and Puffy are really just a long line of "artist' that been putting out albums carried by producers or ghostwriters (usually both) and getting props for it.

master p & puff never claimed to be emcees. yet, they made better music than most of the dudes that crack these top 50 lists and they put legends on.

what ghostwriters did master p have? and master p made classic ALBUMS dog. it aint just about the beats. if you think it was, then i kinda look at you funny.

and puff was the jam master for a good while. sure he had ghostwriters, but he wasnt an emcee. just an entertainer. the problem with puff is the bullchit that came with him on the business end with all the payola and such. plus the over-commercialization that he pretty much made commonplace. but in terms of puff making music, he stayed with bangers . its usually just sausagefest type dudes that have a problem with him on that end.

 

[Wild self]

the fact that you think kendrick & cole are super-skilled, does nothing but prove my point.

i can pull any ole random cat that raps off the block to rap circles around them.



master p & puff never claimed to be emcees. yet, they made better music than most of the dudes that crack these top 50 lists and they put legends on.

what ghostwriters did master p have? and master p made classic ALBUMS dog. it aint just about the beats. if you think it was, then i kinda look at you funny.

and puff was the jam master at for a good while. sure he had ghostwriters, but he wasnt an emcee. just an entertainer. the problem with puff is the bullchit that came with him on the business end with all the payola and such. plus the over-commercialization that he pretty much made commonplace. but in terms of puff making music, he stayed with bangers . its usually just sausagefest type dudes that have a problem with him on that end.

I said that what young dude is more skilled than K. Dot and Cole is under 30 that can make legit good music? Not just spitting, I mean make good ass songs and albums?

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I said that what young dude is more skilled than K. Dot and Cole is under 30 that can make legit good music? Not just spitting, I mean make good ass songs and albums?

that too.

alot of those same random people can make better tapes as well.

ive heard plenty of random ass less than local mixtapes that come off better than kdot, cole, drake, etc.

these dudes yall be gassing up are average as f*ck. if they werent pushed, yall wouldnt pay them any attention. kendrick been around for like a decade. lol.