verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
GAWD DAMN IT MAN!!
D-Wade is NOT BETTER THAN KOBE, STOP THIS fukkING FOOLISHNESS!!!!
D-Wade is NOT BETTER THAN KOBE, STOP THIS fukkING FOOLISHNESS!!!!
So............Chris Paul, Dwight Howard & Rose are better than Kobe Bryant now?
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MANDE KANG
Yeah and how many games did Wade stink up this playoffs? Wade is the reason why the Pacers took them to 6 games. He's been stinking the playoffs with some of his garbage plays for Lebron.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
One thing I know about stans, they are never objective. Never. You love Kobe too much to see whats right in front of your face.
Me? I only care about a team. So its easy for me to see who is better than who without getting emotions involved. I have no bias. You think I'm going to lose sleep if Lebron is the best or if Durant is the best? No, but to you stans, it eats you up inside.
HacksawJimThuggin
All Star
smh at you boxscore whores not watching games, seeing Kobe's point totals, and using that as your reasoning, saying his "numbers" are better...
basketball is about more than just how many points you score
Was Danny Granger the 5th best player in the league in '09 when he finished 5th in scoring? Was Monta Ellis the 6th best player in the league in '10 when he finished 6th in scoring?
No fukkin way. Why not? Because they had little to offer aside from scoring, and even at that, they didn't score too effectively, right? Except their FG% those respective years were both higher than that bullshyt FG% Kobe put up this year. Those guys also didn't have the luxury of having two skilled 7 footers, they were basically the focal point of their team's offense. So why exactly am I supposed to take those 2 guys putting up big scoring numbers with a grain of salt, but Kobe does so at a less effective clip and that's justification for him being a top 5 player?
Tim Duncan has only averaged 25+ points a game one fukkin time in his career and he's unanimously regarded as the best PF ever, you simpletons need to realize there's more to basketball than just how many points someone scores
basketball is about more than just how many points you score
Was Danny Granger the 5th best player in the league in '09 when he finished 5th in scoring? Was Monta Ellis the 6th best player in the league in '10 when he finished 6th in scoring?
No fukkin way. Why not? Because they had little to offer aside from scoring, and even at that, they didn't score too effectively, right? Except their FG% those respective years were both higher than that bullshyt FG% Kobe put up this year. Those guys also didn't have the luxury of having two skilled 7 footers, they were basically the focal point of their team's offense. So why exactly am I supposed to take those 2 guys putting up big scoring numbers with a grain of salt, but Kobe does so at a less effective clip and that's justification for him being a top 5 player?
Tim Duncan has only averaged 25+ points a game one fukkin time in his career and he's unanimously regarded as the best PF ever, you simpletons need to realize there's more to basketball than just how many points someone scores
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
But you are acting like Kobe was great in the playoffs. Kobe is a huge reason why the Lakers lost in 5. The Lakers had 7+ leads in THREE GAMES in the 4th quarter and Kobe played like trash in the 4th all three times. He choked THREE TIMES.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
I'm sure they thought Iverson was a top 3 player back then. Just forget that Iverson sucked on D, was a ball hog and barely could shoot above 40%.
well this year he wasnt top 5 because of injury
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
Are you retard or just trolling at this point?! I didn't say shyt about Durant or Lebron, we're talking about D-Wade. And he is NOT better than Kobe! I couldn't give a fukk less about anybody else, save Love, on that list.
Quit trying to change the focus of your comments, I'm only talking about D-Wade. Where are you getting this "stans losing sleep because Lebron or Durant is the best"?
HacksawJimThuggin
All Star
my personal list... Wade is probably too high, but dude is my favorite athlete ever, so fukk it, sue me
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
CP3
Westbrook
Rose
Melo
and then you could argue D. Will or Kevin Love... even without them, Kobe is currently at BEST the 9th best player in the league IMO
someone answer this... what makes present-day Kobe a better basketball player than the healthy, defensively motivated Melo we saw the 2nd half of the season? Kobe literally does nothing better than Melo at this point in his career except get caught in the air trying to pass and turn the ball over
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
CP3
Westbrook
Rose
Melo
and then you could argue D. Will or Kevin Love... even without them, Kobe is currently at BEST the 9th best player in the league IMO
someone answer this... what makes present-day Kobe a better basketball player than the healthy, defensively motivated Melo we saw the 2nd half of the season? Kobe literally does nothing better than Melo at this point in his career except get caught in the air trying to pass and turn the ball over
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
Durant and Lebron were used as examples. Kobe isn't better than Wade. He isn't. Tell me what makes Kobe better than Wade?
He isn't more efficient, isn't a better defender. What makes him better?
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
I can't even say I disagree with that list. Both Durant and Westbrook outplayed him in the OKC series.
Lebron, Dwight, Durant and Chris Paul are easily better.
Wade is still better.
Maybe he has an argument over Melo and Rose? I wouldn't argue it though.
I didn't watch a lot of Deron this year honestly. I can't say. Love was a beast. Yeah, I would say he is over Bryant too.
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
So wait, you're counting a game that the Lakers won as choking?! Are you serious with this shyt?
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
We lost all 3 of those games dude. We should have won that series easily. If Kobe was 09 Kobe, hell even 2010 Kobe we would probably be in the finals this year.
So which 5 players are better than Kobe now?
28ppg (430%), (303%), (845%), 5rb, 5ast, 0.3bl, 1stl, 3.5to (Kobe)
23ppg (457%), (316%), (823%), 5rb, 6ast, 0.3bl, 2stl, 3.6to (Westbrook)
28ppg (496%), (387%), (860%), 8rb, 3ast, 1.2bl, 1stl, 3.8to (Durant)
27ppg (531%), (362%), (771%), 8rb, 6ast, 0.8bl, 2stl, 3.4to (LeBron)
22ppg (497%), (268%), (791%), 5rb, 5ast, 1.3bl, 2stl, 2.6to (Wade)
22ppg (435%), (312%), (812%), 3rb, 8ast, 0.7bl, 1stl, 3.1to (Rose)
20ppg (478%), (371%), (861%), 4rb, 9ast, 0.1bl, 3stl, 2.1to (Paul)
21ppg (407%), (336%), (843%), 3rb, 9ast, 0.4bl, 1stl, 4to (D. Will)
21ppg (573%), (000%), (491%), 15rb, 2ast, 2.1bl, 2stl, 3.2to (Dwight)
15ppg (492%), (000%), (695%), 9rb, 2ast, 1.5bl, 0.7stl, 1.7to (Duncan)
22ppg (457%), (368%), (896%), 7rb, 2ast, 0.5bl, 0.7stl, 1.9to (Dirk)
16ppg (503%), (333%), (857%), 8rb, 3ast, 1bl, 1stl, 1.8to (Garnett)
23ppg (430%), (335%), (804%), 6rb, 4ast, 0.4bl, 1stl, 2.6to (Melo)
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
What are you talking about? There were only 2 games we were up in the 4th and lost, Game 2 and Game 4. Game 1 and game 5 were blowouts. And we won Game 3. So what are you talking about?